Lost Aunt Mary Thomson Turner born 1908

[janeygee]

Hi Janey,

Just went back over some of those passenger lists again and noted the same address as Shelly did above.  Perhaps you have this information but that address belonged to Marys employer Louise Carnegie. The address 2 East 91st Street at Fifth Avenue in Manhattan, was the Carnegie Mansion.
Here is a picture and some details below -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnegie,_Andrew,_Mansion

Louise Carnegie (born 1857)  appears on many passenger lists to the UK. I think her full name was Louise Whitfield Carnegie.

Louise Whitfield Carnegie. Died New York 1946.
Father -  John W Whitfield and Mother -  Fannie Davis Whitfield
Spouse - Andrew Carnegie.

Source:- England, Andrews Newspaper Index Cards, 1790-1976

On Monday June 24 th 1946 at her residence in New York City, Louise Whitfield Carnegie widow of Andrew Carnegie, daughter of the late John W and Fannie davis Whitfield of New York  xxxxxxxx (some text missing here because it was over written with 27-6-1946 - mother of Margaret Carnegie Miller.

There may have been a few connections to Scotland but one was the marriage of  Louise Miller to James Frederick Gordon Thomson  a 41 years old Edinburgh lawyer)  Louise Miller was 18 years old and heiress to part of a $30,000,000 steel fortune of her grandfather Andrew Carnegie. They married at Dornoch. Scotland

Many articles on the Carnegie family on http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html
(Just incase you might be interested)

This shows Andrew Carnegie Scottish Connections

http://www.scotcities.com/carnegie/andrew.htm

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carnegie/gallery/carnegieman.html

Looking at the 1920 census Louise Carnegie (1857) had many staff - butler and servants from Scotland.


Sandra

HI SANDRA;
Just re-looking at these posts and wonder if you can tell me if on the
passenger-lists for 1932-33-35 when aunt Mary made her trips to UK
do the lists show 'Louise Carnegie' was travelling on the same ship,,

I remember my mother saying aunt Mary stayed for one/two months
in Scot.on these visits, I'm wondering if she stayed working in the"C"
 residence in Scot,,,appreciate any info you can find,,,thanks a bunch,,

Kind regards;

Janey;

[*Sandra*]

Hi Janey,

Fingers crossed  - good luck. 

Have looked back through a few passenger lists -  it looks as if Louise travelled 20 th May 1932 on the Aquitania and Mary 5 th  June 1932 on the Cameronia

Also Louise travelled 17 th May 1933 on the Aquitania and Mary 29 th May 1933 on the Aquitania.

Mary never gave the Carnegie address in Scotland 

Sandra

[braven]

Hi

I've only just come across this post and have read through it with interest. My link is Jane IRVINE, sister of James Irvine who married Euphemia Bell LAIDLEY. I would certainly like to get more information on James and family. One error I noticed regarded Euphemia IRVINE who married John Turner KENT in 1922. She died in 1955 in Glasgow and not in the USA. John Turner KENT died in 1970 in Glasgow.

I hope that you are able to reply after such a gap since the last message.

Braven

[*Sandra*]

Hi

She died in 1955 in Glasgow and not in the USA. John Turner KENT died in 1970 in Glasgow.


Braven

Hi Braven,

Just checking back for the error but reply 44 quoting from a family tree said Euphemia died 21 st October 1955 Glasgow.

Sndra

[*Sandra*]

Just noticed a FIND A GRAVE entry for Archibald Backhouse (goes with the death and obituary in reply 16) You may have already found it since we were working on this thread.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0si1/

Also Jane "Jean" Wilson Backhouse - Born  April 9th , 1891, Scotland
and died October 9th , 1979 New Jersey.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0si2/

Sandra

[braven]

Hi Sandra

My apologies. I missed the post 40 reference. It was reply 42 referring to a death of Euphemia KENT in Florida in 2003 that I noticed. I have only just downloaded the death of Esther IRVINE (nee BACKHOUSE) in 1957 to find her maiden name. I will now go back through the posts to extract the relevant BACKHOUSE information and add it to mine.

Do you have any specific links for this IRVINE family tree? I've only got as far back as 1801.

Braven

[janeygee]

 

Hi Braven;

Thanks a bunch for your P/M,somtimes it is a good idea to reply this way
as one never knows when you may have a living-rellie still around so
I can say in this instance we can reply on board  as it seems safe to pass
on the info. Sandra as you saw was a gold-mine of help to me in finding
the rellies you have noted the Backhouse connection I have to say the
last person in line passed away in 2004 and I have been unable to connect
with another cousin there in NY/USA.

I will dig out my file on James (b)1860 Glas/Scot (mar) Euphamia Bell Laidley
and see what I can post may be of some help to you on R/C"
I think my research on the "Irvine" name shows a lot came to Glas/Scot
from Ireland,Orkney Isles,Perthshire,etc, I was most interested in the
Perthshire area as my family had connections there.

Lastly feel free to post any query or info on "R/C" as the "Mods" here
are the best,second to none when it comes to research,,,
Will get back to ya soon,,,,

Kind regards;

Janey;

[braven]

Hi Janey

Thanks for your reply. I now have most of the recent IRVINE details. I am missing the marriage date and place for Andrew and Esther and I have no record of children for Jane Bell and Archibald McCORQUODALE between 1920 and 1927. Do you have any details?

I have also been unable to account for Jesse IRVINE b. 1858 at 221 Holm? Street, Blythswood, Glasgow, son of James and Elizabeth (nee Robertson) and brother of James b. 1862. He does not appear on the 1861 census, but I cannot find a death for him between 1858 and 1861.

I have photographs of James, Margaret and Sarah, but none of the others. Have you found any online?

Let me know if you need details of the earlier family.

Best wishes

Braven

[*Sandra*]

HI Both,

The marriage of Andrew Irvine and Esther Backhouse 30 th June 1928 Manhattan

Andrew Irvine  Jun  30  1928  Manhattan  17059
Esther Backhouse   Jun  30  1928  Manhattan  17059   

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0sig/


http://www.italiangen.org/NYCBridesRes2.asp

Sandra