HALL, Limerick, Ireland to Australia

[Minstrel Boy]

Sue & Leanne,

Just downloaded the death cert of Johanna Watson (nee Hall) and the details fit with what you say about my Johanna. They are as follows:

She was a 'domestic', died aged 45 years of myocarditis and ensuing heart failure. Her parents are recorded as unknown. The informant was the undertaker, recorded as an 'Authorized Agent', who buried her in Bendigo cemetery. She was buried according to RC funeral rites. The death register records her birth in Ireland and that she spent 18 Years in Victoria and 7 years in NSW. It also states that she married aged 22 years in Sydney to Ernest Alfred Watson and had issue Harry (aged 21), Bernard (aged 19), Teresa (aged 17) and William (aged 15).

I am sure this is my Johanna. Thanks again,

Michael.

[sparrett]

  Bernard (aged 19) MICHAEL


http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/veteran.asp?ServiceID=A&VeteranID=457037

 

Sue

[Minstrel Boy]

Sue,

Thanks yet again. I have a letter posted from Bendigo in the mid-80s to a very elderly relative here in Ireland enquiring after the Irish Halls. The letter was preserved in the family but despite the best of intentions nobody followed up on it. The letter-writer states that Johanna had a son that everyone called Uncle Bernie but whose real name was Richard Patrick!

You unearthed the birth to Johanna of a son Richard Patrick in 1916 in Chiltern. Bernard Watson's army record states that he was born in Chiltern, but in 1917. I can't explain this but I'm sure he is the same man.

I am currently searching through the records at the links you provided. If I find anything more or receive a reply to my letter I will post again,

Thank you all sincerely,

Michael

[sparrett]

We will hope to hear

To be a little more certain about the births to JOHANNA, there are some other steps you could take.

Online births in NSW are only available to 1910. However some in this forum have resources to check births to 1918. Make a new posting headed "NSW births 1910 to 1918" and ask for a lookup.

The indexing of the ww2 record  for BERNARD can be ordered in its complete form. It may hold something helpful.

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/explore/defence/service-records/army-wwii.aspx

The marriage cert of ERNEST and JOHANNA in NSW may have useful information.
including ERNEST's parents' names.  I cannot locate his death in VIC.  He died after 1940 as he was NOK on BERNARD's enlistment. He seems not to be buried with JOHANNA.

A less expensive alternative to ordering a copy of the original is through a Transcription Agent

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/howToTraceYouFamTree.htm#TranscriptionAgent

Here is a link to what you may find on
Australian certificates-
http://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html


Sue

[Minstrel Boy]

Sue & Leanne,

My plan now is to wait a little while longer for any response to the letter I sent to a Bendigo address last week. If that is successful I am sure a lot of information concerning my Australian relations will be forthcoming and will answer a lot of questions. If not I will have to rely on the information you have supplied and go from there via the internet. I will certainly take your advice then and download the documents you have suggested. I have searched these sites for Patrick, Johanna’s brother, but he remains a mystery.

Thanks for the advice and help, and for the links you provided. In particular, I am so chuffed that you found Johanna and effectively reconstructed her family so that I can connect her to my last known relation in Bendigo. We are all delighted here in Dublin. I would not have known how to do this online, or even where to begin. In the meantime I will start a new thread requesting a look up of NSW births for Johanna between 1910 and 1918.

I will post up any developments as they arise, not because I think everyone would be interested but rather in deference to the efforts you both made on my behalf.

Kind Regards,

Michael.

[ennael]

Not sure if the following applies to your search:

As you thought Richard Patrick was residing in QLD and as there is some thought that Richard and Bernard may be the same it may be worth following this entry up from the Ryerson Index.

WATSON Bernard Michael Aloysius
Death notice 06 NOV 2001
Death 86 
late of Toowoomba
Courier Mail (Brisbane) 07 NOV 2001

Buried at Toowoomba:

http://ww2.toowoombarc.qld.gov.au/index.php?option=com_gravefinder&view=burials&Itemid=2

This Bernard is buried with a Gwennie Isabel who also has entries on the Ryerson Index.
There is also the following for Gwennie:

http://apps.courts.qld.gov.au/esearching/Filedetails.aspx?Location=BRISB&Court=Supre&Filenumber=5732/09

Leanne

[Minstrel Boy]

Leanne,

That is an interesting angle, and the civil court documents also mention the name Hall. According to the author of the letter we received from Bendigo in 1986 only Teresa and Bernard (Richard Patrick) were actually named. The writer makes no mention of any other children of Johanna or, indeed, if there were any others. She says only that Teresa, her mother, was dead and that one child of Johanna’s still survived: ‘Uncle Bernie (mum’s brother – real name Richard Patrick) is the only surviving member of Johanna’s children. He is in his 70s and lives somewhere in Queensland’. This could be the man.

Michael

[AaronFed]

I know this post is many years old, however, if Michael is still around, I am Richard Patrick Watson's grandson and I would like to get in contact,

Cheers

Aaron