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Moses HARDING of Newton St Loe
« on: Thursday 03 November 11 16:52 GMT (UK) »
My 5 x great grandfather Moses HARDING married Mary BATTLE at Keynsham on 18 August 1755 but baptised 4 children in Newton St Loe. His wife died and was buried at Newton on 17 June 1765. On 11 February 1771 he married Mary WHITE, a widow, at Newton and baptised 2 more children there. He was buried at Newton in 1806.
However from transcripts at the SOG, parish registers at Newton and Keynsham appear to have no record of a baptism for Moses. The record of his first marriage at Keynsham does not mention his parish.
Both Keynsham & Newton St Loe have other Harding families but Moses appears to be an incomer, but from where?
Any assistance would be appreciated
CUL(L)MER: N, E + SE London 19 cent, E Kent pre 1830, New York post 1850, Vic Australia post 1850
JOHNSON: (dockers/ropemakers) Tower Hamlets pre WWII
OSBORN:(dyers, scourers & gloove cleaners) Hoxton, Islington, Clerkenwell pre 1900
KEWLEY: Bradford 1830-1913, IoM pre 1850
CANNELL: IoM pre 1820
FABB: Cambridge
COLE(S): Warks/Oxon border pre 1830
RILEY: (RC) Bishopsgate area pre 1800
HALE: Brighton pre 1850
KIPPS: E Kent pre 1750
HARDING: MEOT post 1850, Bath Area pre 1850
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Re: MOSES HARDING of Newton St Loe
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 November 11 18:07 GMT (UK) »
Aceh,
couldn't find a baptism for Moses, but did find a birth in 1732 in  Newton St Loe.
Sue

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Re: MOSES HARDING of Newton St Loe
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 November 11 18:20 GMT (UK) »
My 5 x great grandfather Moses HARDING married Mary BATTLE at Keynsham on 18 August 1755

Newton St Loe comes under the Keynsham registration district, so the marriage probably(!!) took place in Newton St Loe!
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Re: MOSES HARDING of Newton St Loe
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 03 November 11 18:36 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Sue, that would certainly fit, but it doesn't seem to be on the SOG,s typescript of the combined register - they don't have Newton on film.

Did you find this from an image of the register or from somewhere else?
CUL(L)MER: N, E + SE London 19 cent, E Kent pre 1830, New York post 1850, Vic Australia post 1850
JOHNSON: (dockers/ropemakers) Tower Hamlets pre WWII
OSBORN:(dyers, scourers & gloove cleaners) Hoxton, Islington, Clerkenwell pre 1900
KEWLEY: Bradford 1830-1913, IoM pre 1850
CANNELL: IoM pre 1820
FABB: Cambridge
COLE(S): Warks/Oxon border pre 1830
RILEY: (RC) Bishopsgate area pre 1800
HALE: Brighton pre 1850
KIPPS: E Kent pre 1750
HARDING: MEOT post 1850, Bath Area pre 1850
PARTINGTON Lancs


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Re: MOSES HARDING of Newton St Loe
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 03 November 11 18:37 GMT (UK) »
I found it on Familysearch.
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Re: MOSES HARDING of Newton St Loe
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 03 November 11 18:42 GMT (UK) »
Thanks K,
I found the first marriage on the SOG's typescript of the Keynsham combined register so it would seem there were two separate registers in the 18th century.
CUL(L)MER: N, E + SE London 19 cent, E Kent pre 1830, New York post 1850, Vic Australia post 1850
JOHNSON: (dockers/ropemakers) Tower Hamlets pre WWII
OSBORN:(dyers, scourers & gloove cleaners) Hoxton, Islington, Clerkenwell pre 1900
KEWLEY: Bradford 1830-1913, IoM pre 1850
CANNELL: IoM pre 1820
FABB: Cambridge
COLE(S): Warks/Oxon border pre 1830
RILEY: (RC) Bishopsgate area pre 1800
HALE: Brighton pre 1850
KIPPS: E Kent pre 1750
HARDING: MEOT post 1850, Bath Area pre 1850
PARTINGTON Lancs

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Re: MOSES HARDING of Newton St Loe
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 03 November 11 18:54 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks, I'll check that out.
CUL(L)MER: N, E + SE London 19 cent, E Kent pre 1830, New York post 1850, Vic Australia post 1850
JOHNSON: (dockers/ropemakers) Tower Hamlets pre WWII
OSBORN:(dyers, scourers & gloove cleaners) Hoxton, Islington, Clerkenwell pre 1900
KEWLEY: Bradford 1830-1913, IoM pre 1850
CANNELL: IoM pre 1820
FABB: Cambridge
COLE(S): Warks/Oxon border pre 1830
RILEY: (RC) Bishopsgate area pre 1800
HALE: Brighton pre 1850
KIPPS: E Kent pre 1750
HARDING: MEOT post 1850, Bath Area pre 1850
PARTINGTON Lancs

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Re: MOSES HARDING of Newton St Loe
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 03 November 11 20:32 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks, I'll check that out.

Sue, K,

I had already checked on the new Family Search site before my initial post and found nothing. I've now repeated the exercise on the old site and found the 1732 birth entry, in fact 3 of them, but they are all patron submissions from members of the LDS church without any details as to sources or parents so cannot be relied upon.
It looks like a job for the Somerset Records Office - I need an image of the baptism entry from the combined register, if it's there.

Anyway, thanks again for your help
CUL(L)MER: N, E + SE London 19 cent, E Kent pre 1830, New York post 1850, Vic Australia post 1850
JOHNSON: (dockers/ropemakers) Tower Hamlets pre WWII
OSBORN:(dyers, scourers & gloove cleaners) Hoxton, Islington, Clerkenwell pre 1900
KEWLEY: Bradford 1830-1913, IoM pre 1850
CANNELL: IoM pre 1820
FABB: Cambridge
COLE(S): Warks/Oxon border pre 1830
RILEY: (RC) Bishopsgate area pre 1800
HALE: Brighton pre 1850
KIPPS: E Kent pre 1750
HARDING: MEOT post 1850, Bath Area pre 1850
PARTINGTON Lancs

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Re: MOSES HARDING of Newton St Loe
« Reply #8 on: Friday 04 November 11 00:45 GMT (UK) »
FreeREG includes the Newton St Loe baptisms from 1568-1875.
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Copies of the transcriptions included can be downloaded from the Wellow Hundred group
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/wellow/

However there is no sign of Moses' birth or baptism at Newton St Loe or any other Somerset parish covered by FreeREG.

The births on the IGI are just guesses based on his marrying or being buried there.

Registration districts were only introduced in 1837 as part of civil registration. The 1755 marriage is in the Keynsham parish register and can be presumed to have taken place in that parish.

There are no Hardings in the NSL baptism registers before 1738. Then there are several  children of John and Ann over the next few years. Possibly Moses was an older son of the same couple, born before they moved to the village, or maybe he moved there independently. The surname turns up in several neighbouring parishes, not all of which have been transcribed back as far as the 1730s.

David