1841 - Thomas DANIEL or DAVIES

[garlands]

Thomas DANIEL(S) m Ann PRICE in 1828 at Llangammarch. Some time later, he changed his surname to DAVIES. I don't know which surname he was using in 1841. I have a record for a possible match with the surname DAVIES in 1365/bk14b/f17/p10. Is there a match to the surname DANIEL(S) or are there any other matches to the surname DAVIES?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

[CaroleW]

You would need to give us something more concrete to work from

Names of children born before 1841 - birthyears - birthplaces

Where was Thomas born and when

[garlands]

According to an old family bible,
"Thomas Daniel, the son of John Daniel
Bwlch tue thre, Llangammarch, was baptized by me,
July 20th 1802, Isaac Price, Dissenting Minister"
Ann PRICE was bap 1 Sep 1811 in Llangammarch.
If the name-change happened before 1831, then, according to the IGI, Margaret DAVIES was b 1831, Mary b 1834 and John b 1835. If the name-change was much later, the only certainty is that Joshua DAVIES was b 17 May 1856. I have been unable to find any DANIEL(S) children.
Sorry to be so vague, but I'm worried that the details I have might concern the wrong family.

[osprey]

working backwards

1861 Wain?y, Clawddmaddog called Trehengwin, Llanwrtyd RG9/4124 folio 14 pg 6
Thomas Davies head mar 56 ag lab b. Llangamarch
Ann wife 50 b. Llangamarch
Sarah dau 10 b. Llanwrtyd
Joshua 5 b. Llanwrtyd

1851 Ffôsyfigin, Llanwrtyd part of the hamlet of Clawddmadog HO107/2470 folio 451 pgs 4-5
Thomas Davies head mar 47 farmer of 131 acres including sheepwalk b. Llangamarch
Anne wife 40 b. Llangamarch
John son 15 tailor b. Llangamarch
Anne dau 7 b. Llanwrtyd
Thomas son 9 b. Llangamarch
Eliza dau 4 b. Llanwrtyd
Sarah dau 10 months b. Llanwrtyd

1841 Celli, Penbuallt, Llangammarch HO107/1365/14 folio 17 pg 10
Thomas Davies farmer 35
Anne 30
Cathrine 12
Margaret 9
Mary 7
John 5
David 3
all born in county

bmds for Llanwrtyd would be under Llandovery, those for Llangammarch under Builth.

[osprey]

there's an interesting NLW will from 1825 which may be related. The will of Thomas Daniel of Penheurwen in Llangamarch mentions his wife Elizabeth, son John Daniel of Cwmbychan, sons Daniel Davies, Isaac Davies, Joshue Davies, Samuel Davies (executor of the will) & married daughter Ann (her surname is under a crease)

http://cat.llgc.org.uk/cgi-bin/gw/chameleon?skin=profeb&lng=en

 Wondering if the John mentioned is the father of your Thomas?

 

[osprey]

forgot to say I can't see anyone with the surname of Daniel(s) in the parished of Llangamarch of Llanwrtyd in 1841.

 

[garlands]

Very many thanks for all the work. I had hoped that Thomas DANIEL would have appeared somewhere in the 1841, but you have confirmed what I had suspected, i.e. he changed his surname at some time between his marrying in 1828 and the 1841 census.
I now have to try to sort out his parents, but that's another story.
Thanks again.

[garlands]

I forgot about the will. This sounds very interesting - how do I access it?

[garlands]

Sorry - I missed the link you'd included. I'll go on to it now.