Cambusnethan Cemetery Grave Search - Part 2

[Brooksy67]

Hi Heather, I saw your thread about Malcolm McNeil (McNeill) and Catherine Ferguson. They are my GGG Grandparents and Malcolm McNeill and Jeanie Reid are my GG Grandparents. I read on one of your posts that you have a PDF of family history and if possible I’d love to see it. Im located in Australia and would really appreciate any help you can give me in relation to my Scottish ancestry. Thankyou.

[Lodger]

Hi Heather, I saw your thread about Malcolm McNeil (McNeill) and Catherine Ferguson. They are my GGG Grandparents and Malcolm McNeill and Jeanie Reid are my GG Grandparents. I read on one of your posts that you have a PDF of family history and if possible I’d love to see it. Im located in Australia and would really appreciate any help you can give me in relation to my Scottish ancestry. Thankyou.

Hi Brooksy67,

I did some research on this family for a neighbour of mine some years ago. I don't know how much you know about the McNeill's but I discovered that they were originally from the isle of Gigha, which is off the west cost of the Mull of Kintyre. I found a Poor Relief Application for Malcolm's father dated 1869, he was living at Campbeltown on the mull of Kintyre at that time.
Here is a trascript of the claim, sorry about the spacing,  -
(Coltness Iron Works was in the parish of Cambusnethan).

GIGHA & CARA REGISTER OF POOR.

(Archived at Argyll & Bute Archives, Lochgilphead)

 

 

No. 32.

 

JOHN McNEILL.

 

Residence – Campbeltown.  Aged 73 years.

 

Claim commenced – 10th August 1869.  2/- per week allowed.

 

Birthplace – Scotland – Gigha.

 

Religion – Protestant.

 

Marital Status – Married.

 

Occupation – A tailor.

 

Partially disabled.

 

Partially destitute.

 

He earns a little by making & mending cloth.

 

Settlement by birth.

 

Family – 

Mary Milloy, wife, aged 65 years, in bad health.

From 2nd (marriage) son Neil McNeill aged 23 years.  (Single).  Earnings not known.

 

By 1st marriage Archibald aged 41 years & John aged 39 years, both fishermen.

Malcolm aged 37 years, at Coltness Iron Works & Alexander aged 33 years, a blacksmith in Glasgow.  All married.

 

9th September 1870 – Raised to 3/- per week.

 

September 1871 – Died at Campbeltown. 

 

 

 

[Brooksy67]

Hi Lodger,

I have John in my tree, I have him as being married to Mary MacDonald who died 4 Sep 1839. Thank you very much for the info Lodger. I will be sure to look into it.

[tags]

I am new to roots chat, been researching Nisbet's Cambusnethan for many years.
Hoping to make a visit to Cambusnethan Cemetery this year.

Looking for Surname Nisbet, I know many are buried there.
Have the location on Adam Nisbet d 1879 & Margaret Nisbet d 1869...Lair Low Public 030.
I am thinking this may be a pauper's grave?
Also Peter Nisbet d 1873 and Elizabeth Aikenhead Nisbet d 1889.... Lair OGY B07-01.

Any help or any other Nisbet graves there gratefully received.

[Lodger]

Hello Tags and welcome to Rootschat.

I am not related in any way to your Nisbets' but I do have knowledge of Cambusnethan old churchyard and the adjoining municipal cemetery, also the private burial ground immediately behind the churchyard.
Some records exist for the old churchyard but these only begin about 1861 when the burgh of Wishaw took over the running of the churchyard and, at the same time the burgh also opened and kept very good records of, the "new" cemetery.  Plot books for the old churchyard only begin around 1876, before that time we have to rely on the Day Book records (a diary of daily interments) which begin at 1861. The gravestones in the old churchyard were transcribed in 1982 - 83 and, since that time, many have disappeared; either through vandalism or the weather.

You mention two references - OGY B07-01. This is referring to a set of transcriptions made by a group of volunteers from Motherwell and is the map reference. If I were you, I'd forget all about that!
The other reference you made is to "Low Public" and you thought this may be common ground.
No, it is the oldest part of the new municipal cemetery and records exist for that section.
Unfortunately, Low Public records run from 1861 - 1868 and then a huge gap until they resume at 1906.
Apart from the gravestone transcriptions, all the records I have for the churchyard and cemetery end at 1917 but North Lanarkshire Council do have a complete set up to the present day.

So, you asked for help with Nisbet graves?  Be careful what you wish for   

I'll deal with the old churchyard first, the family plot with Peter Nisbet and Elizabeth Aitkenhead in it. As I said, the plot book only begins around 1876 and, according to that, the owners at the time were Elizabeth Aitkenhead and Thomas Morton. (A son-in-law perhaps?)
All plots in this old churchyard were divided into 3 compartments, "North, South and Centre". All dates given are of burial, not of death.
In the South -
MAGGIE McKENDRICK, aged 11 years, 22nd September 1882.
ANNE SMITHSON, aged 71 years, 20th December 1899.
In the Centre -
WILLIAM McKENDRICK, aged 55 years, 8th March 1893.
HELEN McKENDRICK, aged 53 years, 3rd April 1893.
JEMIMA WALKER, aged 56 years, 27th November 1902.
In the North -
ELIZABETH NISBET, aged 65 years, 5th February 1889.
ROBERT NISBET, aged 20 months, 15th July 1890.
THOMAS McKENDRICK, aged 69 years, 30th January 1929.

(There's a lot of McKendricks' in there, did you know about them? There are still McKendricks' in Newmains now).

4 further interments for the old churchyard, taken from the Day Book, no plot given.

PETER N. HAMILTON, Wishaw, aged 10 years.
Parents - Alexander Hamilton & Emilia Nisbet.
Interred old churchyard 21st July 1877.
(I'm making a guess about this one, thinking the "Peter N". could be Peter Nisbet?

ALEXANDER T. BRUCE, Cambusnethan, aged 5 months.
Parents - Alexander Bruce & Margaret Nisbet.
Old churchyard 13th December 1876.

PETER NISBET, Furnace keeper, Newmains, aged 57 years, married.
Parents - Adam Nisbet & Margaret Watson.
Old churchyard, 27th January 1873.

HELEN HOWDEN, housewife, Newmains, aged 36 years, widow.
Parents - Peter Nisbet & Elizabeth Aitkenhead.
Old churchyard, 14th March 1881.

Continued in next post ----------

[Lodger]

That's all for the old churchyard, now on to the municipal cemetery.

Plot (or lair) Section C. No. 251. (2 interments)
MARGARET BRUCE, housewife, Cambusnethan, aged 30 years, married.
Parents - Peter Nisbet & Elizabeth Aitkenhead.
Interred 20th January 1881.

NEWBORN FEMALE BRUCE, Wishaw, aged 5 minutes.
Parents - Alexander Bruce & Agnes E.G. McAlpine.
Interred C251 21st March 1908.

Plot 2396 section E. (1 interment).
ADAM NISBET, blacksmith, Wishaw, aged 67 years, married.
Parents - Peter Nisbet & Elizabeth Aitkenhead.
Interred E2396 on 28th January 1914.
Registered owner of lair - Margaret Louisa Coulthard or Nisbet, 182 Main St, Wishaw.

Plot 265 Section D. (2 interments).
JOHN CAMPBELL, furnace keeper, Newmains, aged 65 years, married.
Parents - John Campbell & Euphemia Ferguson.
15th January 1890.

MARGARET CAMPBELL, housewife, Newmains, aged 67 years, widow.
Parents - Adam Nisbet &  Margaret Watson.
19th February 1890.

Plot 377 Section D. (4 interments).
FRANCES BAIRD, Royal Infirmary Glasgow, aged 59 years, married.
Parents - Adam Nisbet & Margaret Watson.
22nd March 1894.

WILLIAM McC. WILSON, Overtown, aged 10 years.
Parents - Matthew Wilson & Marion McCrae.
28th July 1890.

ADAM YOUNG, Burnbank, aged 2 hours.
Parents - David Young & Jane Baird.
13th April 1900.

PHILIP BAIRD or KELLY, coal miner, Hartwood Asylum, aged 69 years, widower.
Parents - Richard Baird & Jane Moore.
D377 29th January 1907.

Next, we'll take Low Public. You know already about plot 30 with Adam & Margaret.

This is plot 29.  (6 interments).

ESTHER NISBET or JOHNSTONE, housewife, Newmains, aged 33 years, married.
Parents - Adam Nisbet & Margaret Watson.
Interred 3rd May 1862.

WILLIAM JOHNSTON, pauper, Newmains, aged 33 years, widower.
Parents - John Johnston & Ann Hamilton.
16th May 1862.

ANN NISBET or McCALLAN, housewife, Newmains, aged 35 years, married.
Parents - Adam Nisbet & Margaret Watson.
7th February 1862.

ANN McCALLIAN, Newmains, aged 6 years.
Parents - John McCallian & Ann Nisbet.
7th February 1863.

ADAM BAIRD, Overtown, aged 14 months.
Parents - Philip Baird & Fanny Nisbet.
15th July 1867.

JOHN JOHNSTONE, engine cleaner, Omoa Poorhouse, aged 58 years, unmarried.
Parents - William Johnstone & Esther Nisbet.
19th December 1910.

Registered owner of Low Public 29 at 1910 was -
Robert Semple, ironworks labourer, Seddonville, Newmains.

1 interment in Low Public 31.

EUPHEMIA CAMPBELL, Newmains, aged 16 years, unmarried.
Parents - John Campbell & Margaret Nisbet.
23rd April 1868.

Lastly, one plot in the Walled Burial Ground, (Usually called "the Private") this was opened at the end of 1861, the records are good but there isn't a lair plan, so finding a particular plot can be difficult, especially if there isn't a headstone.

This plot is No.617.  (7 interments).

JOHN BRAND, grocer, Wishaw, aged 27 years, married.
Parents - Alexander Brand & Catherine McNeil.
28th August 1874.

JANE BROWN, housewife, Newmains, aged 25 years, married.
Parents - Peter Nisbet & Elizabeth Aitkenhead.
7th September 1877.

ALEXANDER BROWN, Ferniegair, aged 4 months.
Parents - Robert Brown & Jane Nisbet.
6th October 1877.

ROBERT BROWN, Ferniegair, aged 28 years, married.
Parents - Alexander Brown & Martha  - - - - -.
13th February 1878.

JAMES MORE, Blantyre, aged 1 year.
Parents - James More & Jane Brown.
4th June 1878.

JANE MORE, housewife, Stonefield, aged 30 years, married.
Parents - Alexander Brown & Martha Lindsay.
8th May 1879.

JOHN B. BENNET, Hamilton, aged 14 years.
Parents - John Bennet & Isa Brown.
11th October 1890.

That should keep you going for a few days Tags!
If I have time later on in the week and the weather is reasonable, I'll take a walk around the cemetery and have a look and see if there are any stones. I'll let you know if I find any.
Do you subscribe to Ancestry? The North Lanarkshire Poor Relief claims are online there and there are quite a few entries for your Nisbets.

[Lodger]

somehow I managed to duplicate a post!

[tags]

Hello Lodger,
WOW! this is exactly what I'd wished for! So glad I found this website.
I have been dealing with another source of information and it's been like drawing hen's teeth.
I do know a lot of the people named but it's going to take me a while to study all this and get it straight who's who.
The lair owned by Elizabeth Aikenhead (buried as Elizabeth Nisbet 1889) and Thomas Morton (brother in law) contains one of my grandmother's brother's, Robert Nisbet died Carluke from measles and the others are related on the Aikenhead side.
I did not know about McKendrick's. This is something I will have to look into.
I knew from an old letter written by my grandmother there were many Nisbet's buried in Cambusnethan but I did not appreciate there were quite so many bodies in each lair. Also contained in this letter was a reference to photos that existed of several of them, my gran had seen them, they probably don't exist now but I live in hope.
I see Philip Baird is here,husband of Francis Nisbet, he was in and out of Gartnavel Asylum for years, I have some of his records from that time if of interest to anyone.
I am coming back to Scotland in a few months to visit my mother and hoping to go to Cambusnethan, how would I locate the lairs especially if there are no stones? Keep me posted if you  manage a walk round the Cemetery.

Thank you so much for all this,
Chuffed to bits!!!!

[tags]

Hello again Lodger,
Forgot to say I did know about the Poor Relief Claims, Thank you.