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William Simpson married Lily Beels 1920 at Grimsby
« on: Saturday 03 December 11 13:25 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

Does anyone know about this family:

William Simpson married Lily Beels 1920 at Grimsby they had a son Kenneth W. Simpson 1921 at Grimsby.

My husband's mother remembers visiting a relative at Grimsby when she was young.

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Re: William Simpson married Lily Beels 1920 at Grimsby
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 04 December 11 09:17 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

Has anyone a Grimsby Directory dated 1920/30?

If you have could you look up William Simpson of Grimsby for me please?

Thanks

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Re: William Simpson married Lily Beels 1920 at Grimsby
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 04 December 11 09:37 GMT (UK) »
Are you trying to find their ancestors?
In which case, buying the marriage certificate will give you fathers names to start with, as well as ages (and so a clue to birth?).

Or are you trying to find descendants?
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A strong possibility for Lily in 1901 is:
Reference RG13, Piece 4483, Folio 42, Page 24
34 Beaumont Street, Sculcoates, Kingston Upon Hull

Beels, George Henry  Head  M  51  Storekeeper Gas Works  b Great Grimsby
Beels, Mary Ann  Wife  F  39  b Hull
Beels, Edith  Daughter  F  16  Ricketts Blue Works  b Hull
Beels, Annie  Daughter  F  7  b Hull
Beels, Lily  Daughter  F  5  b Hull
Beels, Edward  Son  M  1  b Hull
Dorey, George William  Nephew  M  13  b Hull
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Re: William Simpson married Lily Beels 1920 at Grimsby
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 04 December 11 09:58 GMT (UK) »
Beels, Edith  Daughter  F  16  Ricketts Blue Works  b Hull

I had to draw attention to it! :)

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Re: William Simpson married Lily Beels 1920 at Grimsby
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 04 December 11 10:21 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for sending me the 1901 census for Lily.

I am mainly interested in the SIMPSON side of the family and am trying to find out if they were in the shipbuilding trade.

My mother-in-law remembers being sent to Grimsby by her family to stay with relatives to convalese after an illness. The only thing she can remember is that they were in the shipbuilding trade. It was about 1924.

William's father was William Owen Simpson born 1867 India. He died 1933 in Grimsby. This is the William who might have been connected to shipbuilding.
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Re: William Simpson married Lily Beels 1920 at Grimsby
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 04 December 11 11:01 GMT (UK) »
But you need more information!

For example, there are 79 William Simpson's living in Lincolnshire in 1901. 29 of them are under 20 years of age!
And 489 William Simpson's in Yorkshire. About 220 of those are 20 or under.

That's why you need (for example) the marriage certificate, in order to know who his father was, and his age at marriage.
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Re: William Simpson married Lily Beels 1920 at Grimsby
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 04 December 11 12:14 GMT (UK) »
William's father was William Owen Simpson born 1867 India who married Mary McDonald. William Owen Simpson died at Grimsby in 1933.

William (the son) died 1927 - place not known.

Sorry about any confusion.

I have searched the 1901 & 1911 census for William Simpsons born in India but can't find any that fit. As you say there are a lot of William Simpsons.
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Re: William Simpson married Lily Beels 1920 at Grimsby
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 04 December 11 13:20 GMT (UK) »
William's father was William Owen Simpson born 1867 India who married Mary McDonald.

He was a Rope maker in 1891 wasn't he?  I think he was still making ropes in 1901 but birthplace given as Sheffield.  There was a son born in Sunderland which tallies doen't it?

In Barton on Humber, RG13/3108/25/42

Moved to Grimsby by 1911, aged 44, again born Sheffield ... now wife Mary born in Sunderland too. :)
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Re: William Simpson married Lily Beels 1920 at Grimsby
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 04 December 11 13:41 GMT (UK) »
Dear Geoff,

Thanks for this. I did look at the Grimsby 1911 census and discarded it - I thought it wasn't him.

Why should he suddenly start to say he was born in Sheffield?

You are right though in 1891 he was a rope maker.
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