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Thomas Lyson Mayor of Oldham 1957-8
« on: Friday 16 December 11 10:47 GMT (UK) »
I have 2 photos given to me of Thomas Lyson Mayor of Oldham 1957-8 who is connected to our family. I have managed to go back to my great grandmother Betty Young from Hindley, married to John Young, and discovered her maiden name is Lyson(s).

How do I work backwards from Thomas Lyson to Betty to see were the connection lies. In the photo he looks between 55 -60 yrs old, which puts his birth around 1900, I have no information about where he was born or who his parents are, just the scant info on the back of the photo, Thomas Lyson Mayor of Oldham ...relative. Another photo has Joshua Lyson on it?

Is anyone researching the Lyson family who lived in Oldham?
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Re: Thomas Lyson Mayor of Oldham 1957-8
« Reply #1 on: Friday 16 December 11 10:57 GMT (UK) »
He is mentioned here http://www.oldham.gov.uk/past-mayors.htm

I wonder if the council would be able to give you more info- for example what age he was when he served or perhaps when he died?
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Re: Thomas Lyson Mayor of Oldham 1957-8
« Reply #2 on: Friday 16 December 11 11:28 GMT (UK) »
There could be someone with a living memory of Thomas who might throw me a lead with his fathers name. Betty Young (Lyson)came from a family of all girls so the Lyson name needs to be a male one somewhere.......
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Re: Thomas Lyson Mayor of Oldham 1957-8
« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 December 11 11:40 GMT (UK) »
Mooncoin - looking at FreeBMD it seems Thomas Lyson wasn't a common name. The most likely birth seems to be registered March quarter 1904 in Wigan as Thomas Lyson.  LancashireBMD has this as in the Hindley sub-district which looks promising. You haven't given Betty's dates, but you could work with the census & may well be able to see the link that way.


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Re: Thomas Lyson Mayor of Oldham 1957-8
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 December 11 12:16 GMT (UK) »
IGI have a marriage for Thomas Lyson and Ellen Dean in 1924

14 Jun 1924   Oldham (St Paul), Lancashire,​ 

Parents Joshua Lyson and Robert Dean


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Re: Thomas Lyson Mayor of Oldham 1957-8
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 December 11 12:23 GMT (UK) »
Fabulous that looks like it, I love this forum :)
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Re: Thomas Lyson Mayor of Oldham 1957-8
« Reply #6 on: Friday 16 December 11 12:27 GMT (UK) »
He died in Fylde in June 1971 with a DOB of 13 Jan 1904.

Ref 10c page 604
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Re: Thomas Lyson Mayor of Oldham 1957-8
« Reply #7 on: Friday 16 December 11 12:28 GMT (UK) »
Possible marriage for Joshua Lysons to Mary Ann Friers


5 May 1894 St Peter, Hindley, Lancashire,
Joshua Lysons -age 23
Occ: Collier
Res: Hindley Green
Groom's father John Young,  Occ: Collier

Mary Ann Friers - age 21
Res: Stony Lane  
Father: Thomas Friers, Occ: Collier
    
Witnesses: William Carter and Margaret Alice Friers


And probably them in 1901
6 Algernon St, Hindley

All born Hindley

Joshua Lyson   age 30 Coal Hewer
Mary Ann Lyson   age 28
John Lyson   age 4
James Lyson   age 1

RG13 - 3561 - 76 - 32

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McBride (Monaghan, Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancs & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester,Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffs) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up Ardwick, Manchester
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Re: Thomas Lyson Mayor of Oldham 1957-8
« Reply #8 on: Friday 16 December 11 12:29 GMT (UK) »
Joshua's father is given as John Young.....   not John Lysons


age 23 in 1894 - gives dob 1871
I wonder?  Real name Lyson(s) - but brought up by John Young and Betty?


What is the marriage you have for Betty and John? I can see one for a John Young and Betty LICENCE at All Saints, Hindley in 1872. (on LancsBMD)

15 Apr 1872 All Saints, Hindley, Lancashire, England
John Young - Bachelor - age 24
Occ: Fireman
Res:L Hindley Common
Father: David Young, Labourer (Deceased)

Betty License - spinster - age 23
Res: Hindley Common 
Father: Joshua License, Collier

Witnesses: George Prescott and Betty Prescott

 
and FreeBMD ref
Jun 1872  Wigan    8c   26



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McBride (Monaghan, Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancs & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester,Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffs) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up Ardwick, Manchester
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