Author Topic: Single mother in 1799 perhaps in Worfield and Limbutts buildings  (Read 10868 times)

Offline dobfarm

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,797
  • Scarcliffe village Derbyshire
    • View Profile
Re: Single mother in 1799 perhaps in Worfield
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 01 January 12 04:23 GMT (UK) »
Sidney Funnel webspiders walking loose in ozzy

Never seen one! The Sydney funnel-web spiders like to keep to themselves.

Happy New Year from over here in Oz - blue sky, sunshine, a lovely warm Sydney day.  ;D

WOW! Just Google'd Cooee -Pure paradice- we got Muggy - :'( :'( :'(
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Any transcription of information does not identify or prove anything.
Intended as a Guide only in ancestry research.-It is up to the reader as to any Judgment of assessments of information given! to check from original sources.

In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

Offline jane kirkland

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 5
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Single mother in 1799 perhaps in Worfield
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 01 January 12 19:26 GMT (UK) »
The Limbutts were a couple of cottages, well I think there were 2 and to get to them you had to go across a field. They were situated off Cranmere Bank. I imagine they simply weren't attractive to live in because they were not easy to get to.
Unfortunately not many of Worfield's Poor Law Records have survived. I hope you are lucky.

Offline OzJen

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 215
  • I came from over the sea ...
    • View Profile
Re: Single mother in 1799 perhaps in Worfield
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 01 January 12 21:51 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for adding to the Limbutts picture for me, Jane. Every little bit helps!  :)
Bennett (Aspley Guise & Luton, Beds); Elijah Bambridge (Burslem, Staff); Thomas Carr-Parkhurst boy (Loughrea, Gal'y); Dowle (Romney Marshes, Kent + London); Duffy (Trim, Meath); Joseph Kaye (Mirfield, W.Yks); Leonard (Meath); Mary Mulfahy/Fahy-famine orphan (Nenagh, Tipp'y); Elizabeth Hoskin (Illogan, Cornw); Wm Henry Pearce (Tucking Mill, Cornw, Burra, S.Aust); Ruddell (Kilmore, Armagh); Shepherd (Elstree, Herts); John/Clarissa Short (Bodmin, Cornw); Benjmn Thomas RN 1820s; Wright (Ballylisk).

Offline dobfarm

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,797
  • Scarcliffe village Derbyshire
    • View Profile
Re: Single mother in 1799 perhaps in Worfield
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 01 January 12 23:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi Prue,

who said
Quote
I was wondering whether "Limbots" could be a mistranscription of the actual word.

 
I don't think OzJen has a problem with 'Limbots' being the birth place of Jemima BISHTON.

I located that precise location for her in another thread last July.

Quote

I have a typed transcript of Worfield Church BDM's. Author unknown.
It lists Jemina, born 15 Oct 1799, Christened 27 Oct 1799, as the BASE dau of My BISHTON of Limbots.

Several entries for BISHTON have 'Limbots' as the address.
An old large scale map has 'Limbots Buildings' in the middle of a field.
It's South West across the road from Stableford, perhaps a mile North of Worfield.
Google Earth shows a building still there today.


Seasonal Greetings,
Gwynne
http://www.rafbridgnorth.org.uk



In the above it say there are several Bishton's entries living at Limbots in the register. I don't think they will all be single mum sibling baptisms, also the size of the Limbutts buildings given in the last post reply seems to say this was small holding/farm house, therefore nothing to do with poorlaw and its location in the middle of farmland away from the main community or roads.

Well done 'jane kirkland' -thats vital info

Dobs
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Any transcription of information does not identify or prove anything.
Intended as a Guide only in ancestry research.-It is up to the reader as to any Judgment of assessments of information given! to check from original sources.

In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth


Offline Mr Gwynne Chadwick

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 369
    • View Profile
Re: Single mother in 1799 perhaps in Worfield
« Reply #22 on: Monday 02 January 12 20:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

The list of transcriptions of Christenings, Marriages and Burials, at Worfield Parish Church 1749 to
1812, for ALL family names, mentions the Limbots eight times.
In the three years between 1798 and 1800, four BISHTON women had a base (illegitimate) child there.

Then a RAWLINGS couple had a child there in 1803 then a RICHARDS family had three children there
between 1807 to 1812.

I've retyped all the BISHTON family Christenings below.
You can spend an interesting afternoon trying to put the people into family groups.
Note that I've tried to copy the original document - including the spelling errors. The place was
consistently called Limbots.

Jane - I know that you write a column for the Worfield Parish magazine. Could I suggest you ask your
readers for any historical information about the Limbots?

For the record, Worfield Workhouse was in Main Street, in the center of the village. I photographed it
in 2003 for another researcher.

BISHTON Christenings at Worfield Church. From typed transcripts 1749 to 1812.

Born.      Chr.      Name.

26 Oct 1752.   11 Nov 1752.   My d of Rob of Acleton, Lab’r & Eliz.
-      6 Mar 1765.   Sam s of Jn, of Accleton & Eliz.
-      22 Sept 1767.   Jn s of Jn, of Accleton & Eliz.
-      22 Feb 1771.   Ric s of Rob, & Eliz.
-      12 Apr 1772.   Luke s of Tho, & Eliz.
-      12 July 1772.   Wm s of Rob, of Stableford & Eliz.
-      27 July 1772.   Jenny d of Jn, of Acleton & Eliz.
-      22 May 1774.   Jn s of Tho, of Hilton & Eliz.
-      23 May 1774.   Jas s of Rob, of Stableford & Eliz.
-      3 Feb 1775.   Mary Thomason d of Jn, of Acleton & Eliz.
-      29 Sept 1775.   Keturah d of My (base born)
-      25 Aug 1776.   Myra d of Tho, & Eliz.
-      27 Dec 1776.   Sar d of Rob & Eliz.
29 Oct 1778.   8 Nov 1778.   Job s of Tho, of Hilton, labourer & Eliz.
17 May 1783.   18 June 1783.   Eliz d of Tho & Eliz.
7 Sept 1784.   19 Sept 1784.   Geo s of Rob, & Eliz.
14 Feb 1785.   6 Mar 1785.   Valentine s of Jn & My. Pauper.
16 Mar 1786.   26 Mar 1786.   An d of Tho & Eliz, of Hilton.
19 June 1786.   2 July 1786.   Mgt d of Rob, & Eliz.
-      18 Apr 1787.   Kitty d of Jn & My.
24 June 1787.   1 Jan 1788.   Jn Theophilus s of Joseph & Han.
4 Sept 1788.   21 Sept 1788.   Hen s of Tho & Eliz.
25 Nov 1789.   28 Dec 1789.   Eliz d of Rob & Eliz (Pauper)   
10 Oct 1790.   7 Nov 1790.   Bessy d of Jn & My.
8 Dec 1790.   12 Dec 1790.   Sar d of Tho & Eliz.
8 Mar 1790.   13 June 1790.   Chas s of Sam & Sar.
2 Jan 1793.   13 Jan 1793.   Geo s of Sam & Sar, of Acleton.
4 Dec 1793.   8 Feb 1794.   Sar d of Jn & Sar, of Hitton (Pauper)
6 Apr 1794.   20 Apr 1794.   Henry Turner, base son of Jane of Stableford, Pauper.
18 Apr 1795.   10 May 1795.   Juliana d of Sam & Sar.
9 Oct 1796.   6 Nov 1796.   Fanny d of Tho & Eliz, of Hilton.
26 Feb 1798.   18 Mar 1798.   Harriet b – d of An, of Limbots.
24 June 1798.   8 July 1798.   Charlotte d of Sam & Sar.   
15 Apr 1799.   28 Apr 1799.   Edw s of Jas & An.
11 May 1799.   26 May 1799.   Ric s of Jn & Sus.
15 Oct 1799.   27 Oct 1799.   Jemima base – dau of My (Limbots) Your g.g.g.g.gmother.
3 Aug 1800.   14 Sept 1800.   Ric Allerton base – s of An, Limbots.
30 Aug 1800.   28 Sept 1800.   Wm base – s of Sar, Limbots.
13 Jan 1801.   25 Jan 1801.   Sus d of Sam & Sar, Acleton.
20 Feb 1801.   8 Mar 1801.   Jas s of Jas & An, Standlow.
23 Nov 1802.   1 Jan 1803.   Hen s of Jas & An, Standlow.
20 July 1803.   11 Sept 1803.   My An d of Sam & Sar, W.
16 Oct 1804.   11 Nov 1804.   Jn Hen s of Sam & Saw, W.
12 Oct 1804.   18 Nov 1804.   Rob s of Jas & An, Stanlow.
25 Jan 1805.   10 Feb 1805.   Jn s of Jn & Sus, Stableford.
7 Feb 1806.   23 Mar 1806.   An d of Jas & An, Standlow.
26 Jan 1807.   22 Feb 1807.   Jas s of Sam & Sar, W.
31 May 1807.   28 June 1807.   Tho base – s of Mgt, Stableford.
21 Nov 1807.   1 Jan 1808.   Eliz d of Jas & An, Standlow.
17 Apr 1808.   15 May 1808.   Triphena d of Tho & An, Sonde.
21 May 1808.   26 June 1808.   Jane d of Valentine & Phebe, Hallon Ford.
 3 Aug 1808.   25 Sept 1808.   Geo s of Jn & Sus, Stableford.
11 Jan 1809.   22 Jan 1809.   Eliza Thomason, d of Sam & Sar, W.
11 Dec 1809.   24 Dec 1809.   Harriett d of Tho & An, W.
10 Feb 1810.   6 May 1810.   Sar d of Val’n & Phebe, W.
24 Aug 1811.   8 Sept 1811.   My d of Elis.
15 Aug 1811.   8 Dec 1811.   Jn s of Valentine & Phebe, Hallon’s Ford.
2 Dec 1811.   1 Jan 1812.   And s of Ric & Menella.
22 May 1812.   28 June 1812.   Eleanor d of Tho & An, Sond.

The only other mention of the Limbots;

17 Dec 1803.   15 Jan 1804.   Martha d of Jn & Eliz RAWLINGS, Limbots.

17 July 1807.   9 Aug 1807.   Tho s of Wm & Han RICHARDS, Limbots.
12 July 1809.   13 Aug 1809.   My d of Wm & Han RICHARDS, Limbotts.
6 July   -   15 Mar 1812.   Joseph s of Wm & Han RICHARDS, Limbots.

Gwynne



Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline OzJen

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 215
  • I came from over the sea ...
    • View Profile
Re: Single mother in 1799 perhaps in Worfield
« Reply #23 on: Monday 02 January 12 21:36 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for sharing all this information, Gwynne, AND for taking the time to so carefully re-type it! I'm sure many other people chasing the BISHTONS will find this information very useful in the future, as well as me now.

It interests me that

The list of transcriptions of Christenings, Marriages and Burials, at Worfield Parish Church 1749 to 1812, for ALL family names, mentions the Limbots eight times.
In the three years between 1798 and 1800, four BISHTON women had a base (illegitimate) child there.
Then a RAWLINGS couple had a child there in 1803 then a RICHARDS family had three children there between 1807 to 1812.

I'm sure there is going to be an interesting story to this place, when we work it out!

I have written to the store over the road from the buildings and to Cranmere Farm and will share anything they send me on this thread to add to the information resource we are all creating.

If anyone else who reads this thread knows anything about the history of the Limbutts/Limbots building/s, even if it's small, please share it with us!  :)
Bennett (Aspley Guise & Luton, Beds); Elijah Bambridge (Burslem, Staff); Thomas Carr-Parkhurst boy (Loughrea, Gal'y); Dowle (Romney Marshes, Kent + London); Duffy (Trim, Meath); Joseph Kaye (Mirfield, W.Yks); Leonard (Meath); Mary Mulfahy/Fahy-famine orphan (Nenagh, Tipp'y); Elizabeth Hoskin (Illogan, Cornw); Wm Henry Pearce (Tucking Mill, Cornw, Burra, S.Aust); Ruddell (Kilmore, Armagh); Shepherd (Elstree, Herts); John/Clarissa Short (Bodmin, Cornw); Benjmn Thomas RN 1820s; Wright (Ballylisk).

Offline Mr Gwynne Chadwick

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 369
    • View Profile
Re: Single mother in 1799 perhaps in Worfield
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 03 January 12 10:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Resisting the temptation to drive there, a pleasant four hour round trip walk took me to the Limbutts Buildings yesterday with my camera.
Apart from the two photographs below, I've put eleven photographs on my own web site at;

http://www.rafbridgnorth.org.uk/familyhistory/variousfolder/limbutts/limbutts.html

Gwynne

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline OzJen

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 215
  • I came from over the sea ...
    • View Profile
Re: Single mother in 1799 perhaps in Worfield
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 03 January 12 11:03 GMT (UK) »
You are a star, Gwynne! That's sensational! It's so interesting and exciting to see them so clearly in the photos, especially from all the way over here in Oz . Rather amazing, actually, to think that this is where 4g-grandmother was born ...

Thank you VERY much. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's interested to see what they really look like up close.

Hmmm - if only those bricks could talk, I'll bet they'd have a few interesting stories to tell!

OzJen  ;D
Bennett (Aspley Guise & Luton, Beds); Elijah Bambridge (Burslem, Staff); Thomas Carr-Parkhurst boy (Loughrea, Gal'y); Dowle (Romney Marshes, Kent + London); Duffy (Trim, Meath); Joseph Kaye (Mirfield, W.Yks); Leonard (Meath); Mary Mulfahy/Fahy-famine orphan (Nenagh, Tipp'y); Elizabeth Hoskin (Illogan, Cornw); Wm Henry Pearce (Tucking Mill, Cornw, Burra, S.Aust); Ruddell (Kilmore, Armagh); Shepherd (Elstree, Herts); John/Clarissa Short (Bodmin, Cornw); Benjmn Thomas RN 1820s; Wright (Ballylisk).

Offline Mr Gwynne Chadwick

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 369
    • View Profile
Re: Single mother in 1799 perhaps in Worfield
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 03 January 12 19:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Quote
Rather amazing, actually, to think that this is where 4g-grandmother was born ...


Sorry, but having yesterday seen the 'Limbutts Buildings' I think it raises more questions than answers.
Although the buildings could obviously have changed considerable over 200 years, I'm not convinced they were ever a 'domestic' type of building.

I've also checked my copy of H.D.G. Foxall's 'A Gazetteer of Streets, Roads and Place names in Shropshire' This is a very respected 1967 publication that lists over 27,000 places in Shropshire.

He lists both;
Limbutts, The, Stableford, Worfield.
and
Limbutts Buildings, Stableford, Worfield.

So was there a house, now demolished, close to the buildings I photographed?

Gwynne

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk