Angelina King - 1855

[keyboard86]

Whoopee Trish so why did Angelina marry as a King

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[bebbhild]

This now really has my head done in......

I have followed the thread for Alice King [b:c1833] through her marriages first to Isaac Spur with children Alexander Spurr 1850, Agnes Jane Spurr 1853 and Angeleano Spurr 1855.
Then to Joseph Bullard with whom I haven't found any children of the marriage  but I have lost her after the 1871 census - so it's still possible.
All of that fits together.

VERY HAPPY - THANK YOU TO ALL!

But not happy with the idea that Angeleano Spurr gets married as Angelina King even though they were both born c1855 in Gainsborough.

I can't follow Angeleano/Angelina King b 1837 after the 1851 census when she appears to be at her Aunt's in Grimsby. I can't find a marriage to link up with Thomas Gunn but the appearance of the name Alonzo as one of her children makes me think you may well be right in thinking that the Ann King you found is indeed Angelina. However the date of their marriage as Dec 1856 appears to be after all the suggested dates for my Angelina King born 1855-6 as any legitimate child of theirs couldn't be born before 1857.

One thought is still that my Angelina King was the child of Angeleano but born out of wedlock. Could she have given her to her married sister Alice to raise and was brought up as part of the Spurr / Bullard family. It only being when she wanted to marry that she asked for and  found out her real birth name. I'm not convinced as there is a birth record for Angeleano Spurr and that negates the idea.

I'm also not convinced by the record for Martha King as the housekeeper for John Barthorpe. Mainly because she has a son Albert born 1845 in Gainsborough. He would be more or less exactly the same age as Alverna born 1845 and the big brother of Alexander born 1850. Alverna and Alexander are both part of the King Sibling Family with Albert as head in the 1851 Census. Why would she take one son with her and leave the others?

Interestingly a Martha King was tried and acquitted of 'Arson of a Stack' [ at least I think that's what it says] on 8 March 1849 in Lincolnshire. Could that account for her disappearance from the family? While I can find an appropriate death for Charles King  between 1841 and 51 - I can't find one for Martha.

By the way - I've also found a reference to a marriage between Charles King and Martha Hill for 21 June 1830 at Gainsborough. That fits with the birth of Alfred in 1831 as the first born.

I still feel that somewhere in this family with it's 'A's and Angeleano's and Angelina's  is my Angelina but I may be barking up totally the wrong tree.

Thanks for all your help.
Isn't family history infuriating/addictive/exciting/maddening
Elaine

[keyboard86]

Marriage from FreeREG;
23 February 1852, All Saints, Gainsborough, Lincolnshire
Alice KING, Father CHARLES King
Isaac SPURR, Father ISAAC Spurr

Trish

Hi was Angelina not the offspring of this marriage, this is your Angelina also Martha on the 1841 was not born in county so why is the 1851wrong
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[Geoff-E]

Albert ... He would be more or less exactly the same age as Alverna born 1845 and the big brother of Alexander born 1850.

I'm not sure what you're saying - he was age 4 in 1851, so ...
Births Mar 1847 
KING    Albert Charles        Gainsbro'    14   346

Deaths Dec 1849
KING    Charles         Gainsbro    14   226 (buried 21 Oct, aged 41)

[bebbhild]

Surely this is Angelina / Angeleano Spurr b 1855 daughter of Alice. Why would she marry as Angelina King in 1873?

[keyboard86]

Exactly my point earlier!


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[bebbhild]

On Ancestry the 1851 Census gives Martha King  -  House keeper to John Barthorpe- her son Albert as 6 not 4. So that would give a birth date of c 1845 or 1847

Which ever way ...... why would Martha take a son Albert with her and leave behind  Alverna b:c 1845  age 6 and Alexander b: c 1850 age 1 into the care of their brothers and sisters - the eldest of which is Albert b c 1831 as the head of the Household.

[bebbhild]

This is what I've put together so far about this family..........

Census 1841: Gainsborough

Charles King   b: c 1811   - 1849     Lincs
Martha      b: c 1811                  Not Lincs

Alfred      b: c 1831                Lincs
Alice              b: 1832
Absolom           b: 1834
Angeleano   b: c1837
Alonzo      b: c 1839
Ambrosine   b:c 1841

Census 1851: Gainsborough
Alfred      b: c 1831
Alice              b: 1832
Absolom           b: 1834
Alonzo      b: c 1839
Ambrosine   b:c 1841
Alverna      b:c 1845
Alexander       b:c 1850

Angeleano   b: c1837   Grimsby – with Aunt

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Alfred      b: c 1831   m : Jane 1851- Emily,  Jane,  Alonza                 m: Matilda
Alice              b: 1832    m: Isaac Spurr –Alexander, Agnes Jane, Angeleano       
                                         m: Joseph Bullard

Absolom           b: 1834-1907   m: Mary Ann
   
Angeleano   b: c1837

Alonzo      b: c 1839-1913   m: Jane Beck - Algernon, Alfred, Ernest, Ada         
                                                   m: Elizabeth Poole

Ambrosine   b:c 1841              m: Edward Rich – Thomas, Edward, John, Henry, Elizabeth,
                                                                     Prudence, Sarah

Alverna      b:c 1845-1925     m: Sarah Ann – Annie, Harriet, William, James,
                                                                  Florence, Alfred, Ambrose, Alexander

Alexander           b:c 1850   1871- Sheffield

[keyboard86]

Hi the answers to possibly all your questions lies with a combination of either the marriage or birth certs for Angelina?

As to why Martha only took the one child with her I cannot answer, also remember Alexander may possibly be the child of Alice?

Have not checked yet, where were rest of 1841census in 1851?
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