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Re: Ferranshane and Hungrey Hall co.Antrim
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 14 May 05 16:29 BST (UK) »

Steve,

I'll leave that one for Christopher. ;D

Cloughfern I know - Croghfern is a mystery to me. I think Christopher must have it on a map.

You could ask the Council as Christopher suggests - nice friendly people the Irish ::)

Darcy
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Re: Ferranshane and Hungrey Hall co.Antrim
« Reply #19 on: Friday 06 January 06 18:51 GMT (UK) »
My mother (from Belfast) went to an archaeological dig in these places once about 25 years ago. They excavated a fort to confirm an old legend about Hungry Hall, that an ancient chieftain had been beseiged in his fort there and burned alive in his bath - something like that.  I think he had the option to be burned alive in there or to come out and die fighting.        I do believe they did find a layer of burning at the fort.  As my mother walked up to the archaeological site, she talked (in passing) to a woman living in an old house in Ferranshane, who told her that the United Irishman William Orr had been betrayed in that house (circa 1798).  His story is easily found via Google. My mother thought it was so typical of Ireland that you should have 2 powerful incidents from such long-separated periods of history, yet crammed so close together in a little district like that.

My mother's dead now, and I came online to find out about William Orr and the chieftain and this dig, so if any one knows more do tell - does anyone know any more?





























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Re: Ferranshane and Hungrey Hall co.Antrim
« Reply #20 on: Friday 06 January 06 21:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi there Ligoniel

Welcome to RootsChat ;D

I remember that Ligoniel area of Belfast well. ;D  We have someone on the site researching William Orr. Here is a link to the discussion and some information on William.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,23230.0.html

PS - Jena is my sister so I'm familiar with the story.

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Re: Ferranshane and Hungrey Hall co.Antrim
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 07 January 06 13:21 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Chris

I can not match all this computer wiz stuff I need just plain and simple.
With those directions I know where to go

Ta very much

Darcy

Carnmoney graveyard has always been the place to start from  ;D         ,can find anything from there if thats the starting point

Ta Steve

To you both
Does this then mean that its two areas side by side or one just spelt differently over the years


Steve,

I am not sure if your message I can not match all this computer wiz stuff I need just plain and simple. With those directions I know where to go means you understood me or did not understand me. Just in case I will attempt to give better directions.

Go out of Belfast on the M2. Do not follow the M2 all the way. You need to keep to the RHS lanes for the M4/5 to Carrickfergus. At the end of the M4/5 you come to a large roundabout. I think one of the turns takes you toward Glengormley. Do not take that turn but follow the Carrickfergus Road. There is a sign on your LHS for Rathcoole. Do not take that one. Take the next one, at a set of traffic lights, which should say Doagh .Go straight along that road with Rathcoole Housing Estate on your LHS and further along Abbotts Cross Shopping Centre on your RHS. I am doing this from memory. If I was driving or in the passenger seat beside you I could probably get you there. I think Cloughfern is further up the road from the shopping centre. Save that Cloughfern route. Ligoniel and the Holywell Hospital / Steeple Road area of Antrim town have been mentioned.


This is one of those days Steve. I Googled for PLU as I noticed I omitted to tell you about them. You asked the meaning of PLU in your posting Friday 13th May. In my Google just now I learn this site is closed until Monday morning. You should get the answer to your question then.   
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/UnionsIreland.html 
Why bother using ox.ac.uk PRONI have two excellent sites giving information on PLUs both of which are available today - www.proni.gov.uk/records/poor_law.htm www.proni.gov.uk/geogindx/poorlaw.htm

Megan Phelps (RootsChat user name MegP) of Sydney, Australia is interested in William Orr and Ferranshane too.
http://www.from-ireland.net/history/ant/orrspeech.htm www.westwindnet.com/ireland/debatcen/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=ndebcen&Number=487308&page=7&...
William Orr had a brother James http://www.searcs-web.com/orr1.html
http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6083&mode=threaded .


Best Wishes, Chris




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Re: Ferranshane and Hungrey Hall co.Antrim
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 08 January 06 16:20 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the new directions Chris I have managed to find it now...........

I have been sitting on the side of the road by Carrick Castle since May last year....I'am a bit cold ,but the walk back to-wards Belfast warmed me up ;D

Have checked out those site and thank you

Steve
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Re: Ferranshane and Hungrey Hall co.Antrim
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 08 January 06 17:41 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the new directions Chris I have managed to find it now...........

I have been sitting on the side of the road by Carrick Castle since May last year....I'am a bit cold ,but the walk back to-wards Belfast warmed me up ;D

Have checked out those site and thank you

Steve

Steve Dear,

If only I had known you were sitting by the side of the road. You should have phoned me. I could have used my bus pass to travel to Carrickfergus to meet you. Did you have to spend Christmas there all alone? Saz never mentioned this matter in any of her posts. Do you think I should have sharp words with her on your behalf?  ::)

Never mind. You can warm yourself and keep yourself physically fit by post in lots of messages on the Irish boards this year. It is grand exercise travelling all around the island of Ireland without moving from your comfortable chair and your keyboard.  8)

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Re: Ferranshane and Hungrey Hall co.Antrim
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 08 January 06 23:48 GMT (UK) »
Sharp words Uncle Chris? - Water off a ducks back I say!!!!!!!!!!

She has a tongue in her head dosn't she and can ask for directions!!!!

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Re: Ferranshane and Hungrey Hall co.Antrim
« Reply #25 on: Monday 09 January 06 00:27 GMT (UK) »
When is your birthday then young one? Should you be out so late at your age?

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Re: Ferranshane and Hungrey Hall co.Antrim
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 11 January 06 19:36 GMT (UK) »
 ;D
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