Looking for Charles Dougherty

[bettyespana]

I have the marriage of Robert Dougherty age 30 Shoemaker.  Father:Charles Dougherty (dec) Farmer

Robert married Margaret Bunting a widow on 11 Feb 1878 @ St Bart's Salford,Lancashire.
He originally moved from the Isle of Man & was a Saddlers App. living 35 Kirby St Everton,Liverpool 1861.
By the 1871c he was recorded at the Infantry Barracks in Salford.The Barracks were in the area where Margaret Bunting lived with 2 of her children.

I would like to find details of Robert Dougherty's family. Parents/siblings if possible & the place on the Isle of Man where he came from.

Any info would be appreciated

[KGarrad]

Maybe this in 1851?

Reference HO107. Piece 2524, Folio 278, Page 17
Ballaure, Maughold, Isle of Man

Dougherdy, Charles  Head  M  33  Farmer of 18 Acres  <no place of birth?>
Dougherdy, Elizabeth  Wife  F  30
Dougherdy, Margaret Ann  Daughter  F  8
Dougherdy, Charles  Son  M  6
Dougherdy, Elizabeth  Daughter  F  4
Dougherdy, Robert  Son  M  2
Dougherdy, Jane  Daughter  F  1          All, except Charles snr, born Maughold


But that doesn't fit with your 1861 census?

Reference RG09, 2710, 3, 3
35 Kirby Street, Everton, Liverpool

Dougherty, Edward  Head  M  Single  24  Joiner  b Douglas, Isle of Man
Dougherty, Jane  Mother  Widow  57  b Douglas
Dougherty, Robert  Brother  M  18  Saddler Apprentice  b Douglas
Dougherty, Margaret  Sister  F  14  Scholar  b Douglas
Dougherty, Isabella  Sister  F  12  Scholar  b Douglas
Fitzpatrick, Alice  Neice  F  3  b Douglas
Collister, Edward  Boarder  M  18  Joiner Apprentice  b Douglas
Harris, William  Boarder  M  27  Coach Smith  b Dublin

This family (Jane, mother, Edward, Robert, Margaret & Isabella) are incorrectly transcribed as Gaugherty in 1851 (HO107, 2525, 338, 64) BUT the father is a William

[Frances_mnb]

is there confusion with 1871 census - robert looks son of Charles + Elizth Kneale m Maughold 18411127
Charles is I think son of patrick D + Margt Christian but bapt Bride 1814-07-03 - his mo Margt is buried Bride 1816 but he is however cconsisten with age 23 in 1841 33 in 51 42 in 61 (where gives bapt as Bride)  - farming at Ballure which is just on southern boundary of ramsey - 1st child bapt Ramsey (possibly later are also bapt there)

the Edward + Jane fit family of Wm Daugherty (various spellings) + Jane Cannell m m Braddan 18290503  but no Robert I can see in this family

[bettyespana]

Maybe this in 1851?

Reference HO107. Piece 2524, Folio 278, Page 17
Ballaure, Maughold, Isle of Man

Dougherdy, Charles  Head  M  33  Farmer of 18 Acres  <no place of birth?>
Dougherdy, Elizabeth  Wife  F  30
Dougherdy, Margaret Ann  Daughter  F  8
Dougherdy, Charles  Son  M  6
Dougherdy, Elizabeth  Daughter  F  4
Dougherdy, Robert  Son  M  2
Dougherdy, Jane  Daughter  F  1          All, except Charles snr, born Maughold


But that doesn't fit with your 1861 census?

Reference RG09, 2710, 3, 3
35 Kirby Street, Everton, Liverpool

Dougherty, Edward  Head  M  Single  24  Joiner  b Douglas, Isle of Man
Dougherty, Jane  Mother  Widow  57  b Douglas
Dougherty, Robert  Brother  M  18  Saddler Apprentice  b Douglas
Dougherty, Margaret  Sister  F  14  Scholar  b Douglas
Dougherty, Isabella  Sister  F  12  Scholar  b Douglas
Fitzpatrick, Alice  Neice  F  3  b Douglas
Collister, Edward  Boarder  M  18  Joiner Apprentice  b Douglas
Harris, William  Boarder  M  27  Coach Smith  b Dublin

This family (Jane, mother, Edward, Robert, Margaret & Isabella) are incorrectly transcribed as Gaugherty in 1851 (HO107, 2525, 338, 64) BUT the father is a William

Looking at what you have found I think that he person who gave me the 1861c which shows Robt as a Saddlers apprentice in Everton,Liverpool is incorrect.
I have had a private message which clearly shows the 1861c for Maughold,I of Man & Robert is still at home with parents age 12.Father is Charles Dougherty & Mother Elizabeth.

I apologise for any inconvenience caused.

Betty

[bettyespana]

is there confusion with 1871 census - robert looks son of Charles + Elizth Kneale m Maughold 18411127
Charles is I think son of patrick D + Margt Christian but bapt Bride 1814-07-03 - his mo Margt is buried Bride 1816 but he is however cconsisten with age 23 in 1841 33 in 51 42 in 61 (where gives bapt as Bride)  - farming at Ballure which is just on southern boundary of ramsey - 1st child bapt Ramsey (possibly later are also bapt there)

the Edward + Jane fit family of Wm Daugherty (various spellings) + Jane Cannell m m Braddan 18290503  but no Robert I can see in this family

As you will see from my reply to KGarrard it appears you are correct.Charles & Elizabeth Dougherty appear to be the correct parents for my Robert Dougherty.
The new info I have been confirms Charles was b.Bride
Kind regards
Betty

[KGarrad]

Looking at what you have found I think that he person who gave me the 1861c which shows Robt as a Saddlers apprentice in Everton,Liverpool is incorrect.
I have had a private message which clearly shows the 1861c for Maughold,I of Man & Robert is still at home with parents age 12.Father is Charles Dougherty & Mother Elizabeth.

I apologise for any inconvenience caused.

Betty

No problem!
It happens to all of us at one point or another!