Death - Margaret McPhillamy 1861-?? - Completed.

[Gadget]

Is this one getting muddled - or should I go look at JTN's previous posts:

1851

High Street, Irvine, Ayrshire
Margaret McPhilemy, 60, seamstress, b. Ireland
Margaret, d, 26, muslin flowerer, b. Ireland
Mary Ann Welch, lodger, 26, -do-, b. -do-
Samuel, McKenzie, -do-,  4, b. Irvine
Mary Ann Welch, -do-, 2, b. Dalry
William, -do-, 1 mth, b. Irvine

[MonicaL]

That does come from JTN's previous post:

Margaret Aitken b. c.1835 in Glasgow was 40 on 1881 Census. Can't find on 1891 Census. FAther Andrew McPhillamy, Mother Margaret Morton.

Yep, we have a muddle!

[Flattybasher9]

"The 1879 death looks correct -

28 January 1879
Margaret McPhilmeny, widow of Andrew McPhilmeny, steam ship stoker.
Aged 78.
13 Spring Lane. Glasgow
Parents - Henry Morton, iron work(er) and Elizabeth m.s Gibson. Both deceased
Informant - Margaret Aitken, daughter, present"

Scotlands People have a marriage for Margaret McPhilamy to Archibald Aitken, 1864 Tradeston, Lanarkshire.

Regards

Malky

[Jewel of the North]

Sincere thanks to all who replied.  I have just found the death cert. on SP and it definitely appears to be the correct one.  I have never come across that spelling of the name before, although there have been a number of different spellings over the years.  To be quite honest, at the moment I cannot even remember how or where I picked up the Irish connection on this one.  Margaret McPhillamy the Daughter, married my gggrandfather Archibald Aitken in 1864 and I have struggled with the McPhillamy connection
from the start.  I'm afraid I can never figure out how to use the fuzzy spelling etc. etc. on SP and get it fouled up every time.  Please forgive me if this has been difficult and again accept my thanks for all the help given.
JTN in Canada

[Jewel of the North]

Futher to my post yesterday.  The Chistening in Carnwath seems to make sense, the names of the parents certainly do and the distance from Carnwath to Muirkirk seems to be reasonable enough for the marriage in 1815 to Andrew McPhillamy/McPhilmeny.
Also, the 1861 Census in Rutherglen is definitely a possibility.  I will do my best to follow up on what has been presented and again my thanks to all who were kind enough to offer something to assist.

[Gadget]

Hi all 

Margaret, who married Archibald Aitken,  was down as aged 28 in 1864 so born circa 1836

Final proof, I think of Margaret's parentage:

1841
Hospital Street, Gorbals
Margret Morton, 35
Henry McPhlamy, 15
Meran(?) McPhlamy, 15
Elizabeth McPhlamy, 11
Andrew McPhlamy, 9
Margret McPhlamy, 6
Elizabeth Gibson, 80
All but Elizabeth Gibson b. out county

gnu

[MonicaL]

That is a good census entry to have. Husband Andrew does not appear to show on any census does he.

I wonder if now with the entries you have JTN, we can look also at that 1851 census entry you posted earlier in another post. I don't think it is the right one. With everything now found, this looks a better bet!:

Margaret McPhilimy 70 (age looks to be mistranscribed), head, shirtmaker b. Glasgow
Marion McPhilimy 23 Power Loom Weaver b. Glasgow
Elizabeth McPhilimy 21 Power Loom Weaver b. Glasgow
Margaret McPhilimy 19 Power Loom Weaver b. Glasgow
Andrew Porter 6 grandson b. Glasgow
Ann King 26 lodger b. England
Margaret Briggs Under 1 month granddaughter b. Glasgow

Address: 41 Old Vennal, Glasgow

Monica

[Jewel of the North]

gnu & MonicaL,

Thanks for this information. Yes Monica, you are correct, I was never quite sure about that
1851 Census and noted that at the time, the one you have provided looks much better.
I think the combination of the spelling and my poor computer skills have proved to be too much for me.  This family has been very difficult to handle.  Andrew being missing on both Census records could be due to his occupation (Stoker).  How would that be handled from the point of view of Census takers?? I am presently trying to fill in the gaps concerning the deaths of all of my gggrandparents and it is proving to be very challenging.  Can't imagine what I woul;d have done without RootsChat.  Thanks again.

[Gadget]

Hello again

I've just checked out the 1851 that Monica listed and Margaret is a Widow on that one so, as he died pre 1855, it will be more difficult to find a death for Andrew. It does look like 70 for Margaret's age, Monica, but it should be nearer 50. The children's ages are very similar to the 1841 entry that I found. On this one, they're all born Glasgow 

gnu