*COMPLETED* Marriage to Birth years

[elzabels]

Due to the age of John CHESTER he may have been admitted to a workhouse
http://www.
workhouses.org.uk/Chester/

Lady hawk, nice one
http://www.
genuki.eu/CHS/Church33.htm

or google the Church

[Ladyhawk]

George Chesters born in Chester, Cheshire 8 Sept 1836 to Edward and Ann

The only Edward Chesters and Ann I can locate were married in 1817 at Audlem

As far as I can tell, George was the only child, as the 1841 census has Ann in Chester with presumably her father in law and George

HO107/Piece 130/Book: 16/Folio  7/Page 8

John Chesters       80   M   Cheshire   Head   Slater?
Ann Chesters      35   F   Cheshire   Dau?   
George Chesters         5   M   Cheshire   GSon?

Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900
Event:      Marriage
Groom's name: Edward Chesters      
Bride's name:   Ann Johnson
Marriage date:   07 Oct 1817
Marriage place: Audlem, Cheshire
Source film number: 1655365
Digital Folder No:   4011831
Image No:   291

I don't think that the 1841c above with Ann Chesters and son George is the one that married Edward Chesters

Edward & Ann did have at least one other child Mary
Here are Edward & Ann on 1841 to 1861c
Mother in Law Mary Johnson living with them 1851

1841 HO107; Piece 116; Book: 22; Civil Parish: Audlem ED 5; Folio: 11; Page: 17
Rookey Lane
Edward Chesters 45 Ag Lab.
Ann 45

think this is dau. Mary from 1851c

1841 HO107; Piece 116; Book: 22; Civil Parish: Audlem ED: 5; Folio: 8; Page: 9
Dodcott cum Wilkesley, Audlem
Mary Chesters age 20 F. S.

1851 HO107; Piece: 2170; Folio: 338; Page: 2 (some words difficult to make out as this census very faint)
Rookey Dodcott cum Wilkesley, Audlem
Edward Chesters 50 Audlem Ag Lab
Ann 54 Wrenbury
Mary dau 32 Wrenbury ? Servant
Thomas gd/son 3 Audlem
Mary JOHNSON mother in law 94 Audlem Labourer’s widow

1861 RG9; Piece: 2622; Folio: 63; Page: 7
Rookey Dodcott cum Wilkesley, Audlem
Edward Chesters Head 65 (1796) Bricklayers Lab.
Ann wife 64 (1797)
Thomas 11 grandson
All born audlem Cheshire

Same census below (possibly another child of Edward & Ann's  ) See Avm228 Reply 8

John Chesters Head 39 (1822)  Ag Lab
Mary 46
Thomas 12
Ann 8
All born Audlem Cheshire

elzabels

I have all the census from 1861 to 1911 have his birthplace as Chester.
Just have to find the 1851.

Apart from 1861 census where George is in Barracks & his 1864 marriage occupation soldier his  occ. appears to be coachman - we can't post details of the 1911 census but could you tell me his actual age in 1911 & occ. as  I couldn't find him. Thank you

It's strange that George & Sarah have not named any of their children after their parents only using Sarah's surname Fredk D (Durrant) 1865, George D (Durrant) 1867, Alice 1869, Frank 1874, Arthur 1877, Lena 1879 & Agnes 1881

[elzabels]

we can't post details of the 1911 census but could you tell me his actual age in 1911 & occ. as  I couldn't find him

Have you done an address search, they are at the same address in 1891 & 1901?

[Ladyhawk]

Thanks - not coming up on A*****y for some reason, using free search I can see George, Sarah & Alice Elizabeth are living in Chelmsford Essex 

[a chesters]

Once again, thanks for all the input. There I was thinking I had the Chesters all sorted, and I find I was a little premature .   Thinks…..more work….will OH be kind         oh well, keeps me out of too much trouble

Elzabels
It would seem that all the time from 1861, he stayed in Essex.
Census      Address                  Occupation
1911   Providence Cottages Baddow Rd, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, Essex   Coachman
1901   29 Baddow Road, Great Baddow, Essex            Coachman, Domestic
1891   Providence Cottages, 87 Braddon Road, Great Baddow, Essex   Groom, Domestic Servant
1881   94 Moulsham Street, Chelmsford, Essex             Groom Domestic Servant
1871   Lodge House, Boxted, Rochester, Essex            Coachman and Domestic Servant
1861   Colchester Infantary Barracks               Army Private

As avm228 said in post 8 there were four other children, about whom I had no idea, as at the time I was only following direct ancestors. It was only when trying to make sure that I found them after avm pointed them out.
I also agree with the 1851 census

Ladyhawk, that baptism is a possibility. I had found 11 Aug 1799 at Weaverham with John and Mary as parents.
I had not found Anns baptism as I was not aware of the Cheshire Parish Register website until elzabels told me, and I will be looking at it more closely.
Re Georges marriage, Edward is listed as a coachman The witnesses to Georges marriage were Joseph White and Harriot White, where they fit in I have no idea at this time.

A Chesters

[Ladyhawk]

It would seem that all the time from 1861, he stayed in Essex.
Census      Address                  Occupation
1911   Providence Cottages Baddow Rd, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, Essex   Coachman
1901   29 Baddow Road, Great Baddow, Essex            Coachman, Domestic
1891   Providence Cottages, 87 Braddon Road, Great Baddow, Essex   Groom, Domestic Servant
1881   94 Moulsham Street, Chelmsford, Essex             Groom Domestic Servant
1871   Lodge House, Boxted, Rochester, Essex            Coachman and Domestic Servant
1861   Colchester Infantary Barracks               Army Private

I also agree with the 1851 census

Re Georges marriage, Edward is listed as a coachman
witnesses Joseph White and Harriot White
where they fit in I have no idea at this time.

Was hoping witnesses may have been family doesn't look as if they are related so no help there 
a marriage in 1853 Colchester Joseph WHITE name on same page Harriet REYNOLDS


Have you seen this on family search – may be worth checking out the details to see if you can confirm any info. Pedigree Resource File submitted by pyoung 2009  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/STCK-96K

Some info…..

George Chesters b1838 Chester -   died age 77 Chelmsford 1913
Private 34th Cumberland Regiment of Foot Enlisted Feb22 1858 Liverpool Discharged Feb 1868 married 1864 Sarah Durrant  - 8 children

George Chester’s parents Edward Chesters born 1815 Chester died 1873 Tranmere Wirral Ann Chesters (2nd Wife??) NO marriage given for Ann  & Edward - Ann Chesters b1799 d1873 parents John CHESTER b1761 married 1787 Neston Ann WEBSTER


mmm……1st wife
Margaret Ince b1823 d1880 married 1844 Liverpool Parish Church - FreeBMD Dec qtr. 1844 marriage Liverpool Edward CHESTERS name on same page Margaret INCE

Looks likely the 1841c Ann & George with her father John occ Slater & 1851cAnn Chesters unmarried & son George are the ones you are looking for

Had a look at the censuses for Edward & Margaret Chesters they had children from 1845 – 1860 living Birkenhead - although Edward's occ NOT Coachman  Very interesting that
Edward's occupation on 1851c Letter Carrier Birkenhead Post Office and from elzabels George's baptism record gives father Edward' s occ "Post boy" - a possibly link

1851 HO107; Piece: 2175; Folio: 912; Page: 31-  2 children occ letter carrier P.O.

1861 RG9; Piece: 2645; Folio: 107; Page: 9 –  5 children occ Store Keeper

1871 RG10; Piece: 3751; Folio: 39; Page: 1 – 7 children &  1 gd/child occ. saddler

1841c can't find Edward Chesters b1816 occ POSTBOY but there's this entry

1841 HO107; Piece 130; Book: 5; Civil Parish: St Oswald: Cheshire; ED 5; Folio: 6; Page: 6
Mary Chesters 64
? Robinson 60
Thomas Chesters 28 (1813) Joiner
Edward Chesters 25 (1816) occ looks to be Sadler
Martha 20 (1821)

From pedigree source Edward’s mother named Mary & siblings named Thomas b1813 & Martha b1823

this looks to be Margaret INCE

1841c HO107; P 130; Book: 14; Civil Parish: Holy and Undivided Trinity: Cheshire; ED16; F 11; Page: 16
Watergate Street - Margaret INCE age 15

Edward’s parents Thomas Chesters b1780 Mary SHALLCROSS b1779 m 15/8/1800 Chester – 4 children

Thomas’ parents John Chesters Mary (Pennington)? – 5 children

You would need to verify the info. where possible as it's only submitted
You could check Cheshire Parish link from elzabels to see if anything ties up
George's army service records may hold the clue - his next of kin should be named

Good luck please let us know if there are any further developments

[elzabels]

Hello

Yes I have ticked a lot of this off on my notes, trouble was I got stuck into my own Cheshire roots last night!

Army papers could be the key....they should certainly list the next of kin! At the time of attestation one would expect that to be a parent!

Trade direcotries may assist, John CHESTERS desc himself as a slater.....
http://www.
historicaldirectories.org/hd/

If you maps.google.co.uk, you can see the streets mention, they are still in existence today!

A lot to digest......

[a chesters]

Phew!!!!

Ladyhawk, you certainly found a lot of information. It will take some time to sort through it all.
The Family Search information was very interesting, and while I have most of it, there are two children mentioned I have not seen before. The info I have came from the census information. However there is one girl not mentioned by Family Search which is on the census. I will have to find the military records about George, but you know how it is, something else pops up and away you go.

elzabels your idea about the trade directories was spot on. I found John in the 1828-9 Pigots, and will check some more later.

Hello

Yes I have ticked a lot of this off on my notes, trouble was I got stuck into my own Cheshire roots last night!

As I said above, one can get distracted

Thanks to both of you for all the information and advice.

A Chesters

[a chesters]

Ladyhawk

With regards to Edward Chesters, I have three different possibilities.

Cheshire Parish records show him bn 12 Jan 1794, F Richard, M Elizabeth at Audlem
Family Search shows him bn 13 Jun 1779 F, Richard M Mary at Acton
Family Search shows him bn 14 May 1780 F Edward M Margaret also Acton.

Both the Parish records and Family Search show him marrying Ann Johnson at Audlem, 7 Oct 1817

The Pedigree Reports are very interesting.
The one you mention is one of four I found, all for George Chesters.

Report MMQ5-RPB is the one you found, with Edward bn 1815,and 2 marriages. It shows his parents as Thomas Chesters & Mary Shallcross. The first marriage to Ann has 1 child, George. The second marriage to Margaret Ince has 7 children.

Report MMS8-DVP  has Edward bn Abt 1800, and 1 marriage to Ann Chesters, and 1 child, George.

Report MMZS-H6W has Edward bn Abt 1800, and 1 marriage to Ann Chesters, and 1 child, George.

Report MMQP-1D3 has George with no parents!

All the Pedigree Reports are submitted, not extracted.

All most confusing. Which one is correct?

A Chesters