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Re: St. Joseph's School for Girls (orphanage)
« Reply #54 on: Thursday 02 February 12 19:30 GMT (UK) »
The birth certificate says that Agnes registered the birth.
Yes, maybe she was only there to give birth - that would be good!
Agnes is not on the electoral registers as having lived at 20 East Terrace, although that address is listed on the birth certificate as her address.  Perhaps she didn't register to vote.

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Re: St. Joseph's School for Girls (orphanage)
« Reply #55 on: Thursday 02 February 12 20:54 GMT (UK) »
njlois,

Women got the right to vote in 1918- as long as they were over 30 yrs of age, and were a householde, or married to a householder, or had a university degree.

In 1928 all women, aged 21 and over got the right to vote.

 So Agnes was not eligible to vote in 1924- not old enough ( born 1906 ? )

 When universal came about in 1928 Agnes would have been 23/24, old enough to get the vote, but not registered for East Terrace.

The Fennellys and McEldons were in East Terrace ( well were at least registered/eligible for the year 1929 (October) to 1930 (April) )

None of the families members are registered as at East Terrace from 1930/31.

But they ( or at least some of them) will have been registered to vote from another address, whatever that was.... Eleanor's birth cert details will at least  provide us with another address or two.


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Re: St. Joseph's School for Girls (orphanage)
« Reply #56 on: Friday 03 February 12 01:07 GMT (UK) »
My mother's sister died in November, my cousins had this photo displayed at the memorial.  I had never seen it before.  It is dated 1935, obviously a school photo.   Does it look familiar to anyone?   Should I post it on a different thread?  Oh, my aunt is the tall blond on the left.  She would have been 7 in 1935.  She looks older than 7 to me.

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Re: St. Joseph's School for Girls (orphanage)
« Reply #57 on: Friday 03 February 12 10:16 GMT (UK) »


  At the relevant time East Terrace was within the community of Walker, not within the city of Newcastle, but very close to it's boundary line.

 Walker lay within the Parish of Longbenton, which for various purposes ( Civil BMD Registrations, Workhouse admin, etc) lay within the jurisdiction of Tynemouth.

Today Walker, and Longbenton are within the city of Newcastle.


By the way who registered your mother's birth ?

 It is looking like that your mother's mother was only at " 50 Preston Road" to have your mother ?

 Michael

Where does 50 Preston Road come into it, L says 20 East Terrace on birth certificate?

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Re: St. Joseph's School for Girls (orphanage)
« Reply #58 on: Friday 03 February 12 14:30 GMT (UK) »
On my mother's birth certificate, Column 1 (When and where born): Twenty-seventh July 1924, 50 Preston Road, NB and under Column 7: A. Fennelly, Mother, 50 Preston Road

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Re: St. Joseph's School for Girls (orphanage)
« Reply #59 on: Friday 03 February 12 20:44 GMT (UK) »

  Lois, What was date of registration ?

 So East Terrace was not mentioned on the certificate ?

 Hold fire on my earlier suggestion that Agnes was not a Tynemouth
Workhouse inmate.

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Re: St. Joseph's School for Girls (orphanage)
« Reply #60 on: Friday 03 February 12 21:08 GMT (UK) »
Yes, it is, it's under Column 5 (Name, surname and maiden surname of mother).  Under that column it says:
"Agnes *, of 20 East Terrace, Walker, Newcastle-upon-Tyne nb   of no occupation"

Column 1: When and where born: "twenty-seventh July 1924, 50 Preston Rd, nb"
Column 2: Name, if any (Agnes)
Column 3: Sex (girl)
Column 4: (blank)
5 (as above)
Column 6: Occupation of father (blank)
Column 7: Signature, description and residence of informant:
"A. * Mother  50 Preston Road"
Column 8: When registered: Thirtieth July 1924
Column 9: Signature of registrar: _____ Drew
Column 10: Name entered after registration (none) 


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Re: St. Joseph's School for Girls (orphanage)
« Reply #61 on: Friday 03 February 12 21:39 GMT (UK) »
50 Preston Road was North Shields Workhouse but Agnes was obviously not an inmate so she may have paid for the hospital treatment. Most woman at that time had their babies at home so there may have been complications and the workhouse hospital was the cheapest place to go. The NHS was based on the workhouse system I believe.
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Re: St. Joseph's School for Girls (orphanage)
« Reply #62 on: Saturday 04 February 12 10:31 GMT (UK) »
Just realised you had 50 Preston Road under a separate subject. I was wondering where it came from.