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Offline Ali M

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Wellington '51 &or '61 census lookup pse - Vaughan
« on: Thursday 12 May 05 23:24 BST (UK) »
Hi there,
I'm trying to find Robert Vaughan b. 1842 in Oldbury Worcs in the 51 and 61 censuses.  Although he was born in Oldbury, his sister Emma c. '43 was born in Wellington and this seems to be where the family comes from (And went back to) .  I'd love to find out who Robert, my gt, gt grandfather's parents are
many thanks
Alison in NZ
Shropshire :  Mullineux, Vaughan, Middle
Lancashire: Neale and variants, Edwards
Warwickshire: Lapworth
Devon: Hamblin(g), Cleverley, Jarvis
Oxfordshire: Castle, Haynes, Eden
Northants: Gibbins
Staffs:  Gilbert

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Re: Wellington '51 &or '61 census lookup pse - Vaughan
« Reply #1 on: Friday 13 May 05 14:03 BST (UK) »
I haven't found Robert yet but I did find Emma who was a boarder in Dawley in 1861 unmarried and working as an Ironstone picker. It looks like you will need to have them found in 1851 to get their parents.

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Wakeley/Morris/Stubbs - Shropshire

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Re: Wellington '51 &or '61 census lookup pse - Vaughan
« Reply #2 on: Friday 13 May 05 22:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks for this Gill & I'll keep trying
Alison
Shropshire :  Mullineux, Vaughan, Middle
Lancashire: Neale and variants, Edwards
Warwickshire: Lapworth
Devon: Hamblin(g), Cleverley, Jarvis
Oxfordshire: Castle, Haynes, Eden
Northants: Gibbins
Staffs:  Gilbert

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Re: Wellington '51 &or '61 census lookup pse - Vaughan
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 14 May 05 21:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Alison

The best match for Robert in 1861 that I can find, is the following:

RG9/1856/51 Page 21 – Old Park, Dawley

Henry Vaughan - Head - 33 - Coal Miner - Wellington, Shropshire
Sophia Vaughan -Wife - 44 - Dawley, Shropshire
Sophia P Vaughan - Daughter - 20 - Stone Picker - Willenhall, Staffordshire
Robert Vaughan - Son -16 - Coal Picker - Dawley, Shropshire
Ann Vaughan - Daughter -14 - Coal Loader - Dawley, Shropshire
Edwin Vaughan - Son -10 - Coal Loader - Dawley, Shropshire
Thomas Vaughan - Son -7 - Scholar - Wellington, Shropshire
Levi Vaughan - Son - 9 - Scholar - Dawley, Shropshire
Selina Vaughan - Daughter - 5 - Wellington, Shropshire

I suppose it all depends on how sure you are about the date of birth and location. Anyway, what with the mention of Wellington, I thought it was worth posting the information.

John
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Shropshire: Clarke/Clark, Williams, Prince, Bumford, Sockett, Davis/Davies, Beaumont & Luther
Leics: Clarke/Clark, Anable, Newbold
Montgomeryshire: Williams, Sockett & Thomas
Staffs: Bumford & Davis/Davies


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Re: Wellington '51 &or '61 census lookup pse - Vaughan
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 15 May 05 05:57 BST (UK) »
Hello John,
This is interesting.  I don't know what to make of the dates as I'm fairly certain Robert had to be born around 1841 or 2 or else he was a very young father!!  Other census info. also backs up an Oldbury birth for him.  HOWEVER census dates are often unreliable eg. I notice that Henry, the father, was according to this only 13 when Sophia was born.  Also Levi and Selina are names that seem to recur in "my" Vaughans.  So thank you.  I'll hold on to this and hopefully one day it will fit somewhere into the puzzle.

Best wishes,
Alison
Shropshire :  Mullineux, Vaughan, Middle
Lancashire: Neale and variants, Edwards
Warwickshire: Lapworth
Devon: Hamblin(g), Cleverley, Jarvis
Oxfordshire: Castle, Haynes, Eden
Northants: Gibbins
Staffs:  Gilbert

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Re: Wellington '51 &or '61 census lookup pse - Vaughan
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 May 05 20:41 BST (UK) »
Don't want to throw a spanner in the works but found this entry on FreeBMD and wondered if it relates to the family in the 1861 Census.

Marriages Dec 1859
 
Bailey  Sophia    Madeley  6a 1212   
Powell  Mary     Madeley  6a 1212   
Powill  Mary     Madeley  6a 1212   
Vaughan  Henry     Madeley  6a 1212

It's possible this was Sophia's second marriage and the children 'adopted' their step-fathers name which would explain why Henry appears to be such a young father (13?).

1851 Dawley Census (I only have transcription) has this family at 55 Old Park.

Edward Bailey 49 born Dawley, coal miner
Sophia 33 Dawley
Sarah 16 Dawley, coal miner
Robert 6 Dawley, scholar
Ann 4 Dawley
Thomas 1 Dawley

So it looks like Robert Vaughan shown in the 1861 Census was actually Robert Bailey.

Wellington/Dawley areas - Attwood, Podmore, Wall
Sheffield - Oxspring
Machester - Clarkson
London - Whiffen/in
Leics. - Wass

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Re: Wellington '51 &or '61 census lookup pse - Vaughan
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 May 05 22:20 BST (UK) »
Aha, thank you this makes sense!!

I think this Henry is actually the son of Thomas Vaughan and Ann nee Onions in which case it is very likely that he is either a (much) older brother or cousin to "my" Robert.  But I still cannot find Robert anywhere in either 51 or 61 to verify my guess.

Thanks to both of you for your efforts
Alison
Shropshire :  Mullineux, Vaughan, Middle
Lancashire: Neale and variants, Edwards
Warwickshire: Lapworth
Devon: Hamblin(g), Cleverley, Jarvis
Oxfordshire: Castle, Haynes, Eden
Northants: Gibbins
Staffs:  Gilbert