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Ellen Emma Poole / Joseph - Londonthorpe
« on: Sunday 29 January 12 22:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I would really appreciate if anyone can help me make sense of the below;

Ellen Emma Poole -Born 1869 in Londonthorpe Lincolnshire.


Married in 1892 aged 23 to Robinson Gill.
Found 1901 Census living with Robinson and Kids in Swineshead
Found 1911 census Living with new husband Charles Warsop & kids in swineshead also with May Poole aged 14 (niece)

I cannot find her 1891 census when she would have been 21/22, but I have found the 1881 census in Spittlegate Lincolnshire;

Joseph Bailey 27 - Father (born spittlegate)
Elizabeth Bailey 33 - Mother
Emma Poole - 12
Christopher Bailey - 6 - Brother
Joseph Poole - 27 - Lodger (born londonthorpe)

This is where I got the information from that her fathers name was Joseph and was born 1854. But that is all I can find out. I don't know about the information above about the Bailey's being her parents - if this was the case why would they have written her name down as Poole?

In 1891 I've found a Joseph Poole who was 36 living in London thorpe - but again Im confused by who he is living with;

Jane Poole - 70- mother
Joseph Poole - 36
Ruth Poole - 23 - Son Wife Ambiguous
Ernest Charity 1/12 - Son Valy

Can anybody shed some light on any of this?

Much Appreciated

Rachael
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Re: Ellen Emma Poole / Joseph - Londonthorpe
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 29 January 12 23:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi Rachael, have you thought that possibly Ellen Emma, was the daughter of Elizabeth's prior to this marriage:-

Joseph Bailey to ( on same page) Elizabeth POOL June 1874 Grantham 7a 945

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Re: Ellen Emma Poole / Joseph - Londonthorpe
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 29 January 12 23:08 GMT (UK) »
Ernest Charity 1/12 - Son Valy

It says "Son's baby under 1 month"
Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days alive.

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Re: Ellen Emma Poole / Joseph - Londonthorpe
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 29 January 12 23:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi again, Elizabeth and Joseph on 1861

Edward Pool 46 occ Ag Lab b Walcot
Jane 40 b Welby
Eliza 12
John 10
Edward 9
Joseph 6
Residing at, House, Londonthorpe
Census Ref RG09/2352/81/8
All children b Londonthorpe

1851 for Elizabeth

Edward Pool 35 occ Ag Lab b Walcot
Jane 29 b Welby
Mary Ann 7
William 5
Elizabeth 2
John 10 months
Residing at Pye Wype, Londonthorpe
Census Ref HO107/2103/417/11
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Re: Ellen Emma Poole / Joseph - Londonthorpe
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 29 January 12 23:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi again, in 1871 Emma Pool aged 2 is shown as a lodger with Robert and Mary Brackenbury & Family at High Street, Londonthorpe.
Census Ref RG10/3363/81/9


And Elizabeth Pool aged 22 is an unmarried Domestic Servant for William and Eliza Fillingham at Bridge End Road, Spittlegate.
Census Ref RG10/3360/52/2
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Re: Ellen Emma Poole / Joseph - Londonthorpe
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 29 January 12 23:32 GMT (UK) »
Keyboard has beaten me to it on most of the details.  :)

Yes, I would agree that Ellen Emma is the illegitimate daughter of Elizabeth, and so Joseph Bailey is actually Ellen's stepfather. (There is a possibility that he could be her actual father but as he and Elizabeth didn't marry until Ellen was about 5 I would doubt it.)
The PRs for Londonthorpe/and or Ellen's birth certificate may throw a little more light on the situation.

In the 1891 census, Ernest Charity was presumably born before Joseph Poole and Ruth Charity could marry, which they did in March quarter 1891, Stamford registration district.