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Cecilia Loftus Brown
« on: Monday 30 January 12 15:47 GMT (UK) »
I have a book of songsheets which belonged to a lady called Cecilia Loftus Brown.  I'm trying to find her son's descendants but not sure where to look.

Fact: Son's name was John Peter Barrie Waterman born 1909 in UK (probably London) I think.
Mother moved to USA (New York area first) in approx 1923. 

I'm presuming that the son went with her, but have no details on that.

Can anyone help me find the family please?

Robyn
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Re: Cecilia Loftus Brown
« Reply #1 on: Monday 30 January 12 16:49 GMT (UK) »
What convention are you using for her name?

NAME: Cecelia Loftus Waterman
BIRTH:  abt 1878
DEPARTURE: Liverpool, England
ARRIVAL: 5 Sep 1909 - New York, New York


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Re: Cecilia Loftus Brown
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 February 12 14:09 GMT (UK) »
newspaper article on Cecilia in 1930
no reference to an address but "her house atop a hill"
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0k2y/

She died in New York on Jul 12 1943 and is buried in an Actors' plot in Kensico Cemetery.
Her son was living in London at that time
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0k2z/
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Cecilia Loftus Brown
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 February 12 14:22 GMT (UK) »
According to a geni profile her son is now deceased

http://www.geni.com/people/John-Waterman/6000000002020911235

silly me of couse he is if he was born in 1909! doh  :-[


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Re: Cecilia Loftus Brown
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 21 February 12 17:04 GMT (UK) »
I had that information, thanks everyone.  What I really meant was, can anyone help me find her living relatives.  I need more information on her son if possible.  Area he lived prior to death, was he married etc.
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Re: Cecilia Loftus Brown
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 21 February 12 17:21 GMT (UK) »
Rootschat isn't really a forum for tracing living descentants and we aren't allowed to post details of anyone who could still be living on the boards so we can only give general advice on this thread but if anyone has recent details they can get in touch by PM (Personal Message).
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Cecilia Loftus Brown
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 21 February 12 18:14 GMT (UK) »
I understand that this isn't the forum for tracing living relatives, I just wanted to know about her son who is long dead.  From him I can trace the living ones myself.
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Re: Cecilia Loftus Brown
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 21 February 12 18:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Robyn
I can't find any record of John having married.  He was born on 1 December 1910 and evidently was a London producer.  This is a possible death for him:  Jan-Mar 1963 Fulham - John P Waterman, age 52.  Dazey

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Re: Cecilia Loftus Brown
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 17 April 12 11:57 BST (UK) »
Thanks Dazey.  I will check it out, but it seems as if I'm back to square one.  If only I could find out why this book came to be in the Hull auction rooms when all evidence points to London, Scotland or the USA.
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