birth and parents of William BAWDEN b abt1800

[jmusher]

There could be, I dont know.
The approximate date we have for Williams birth is 1800.
The Gwennap date is 1797. There is also a 1799 birth at Breage  (but still no sign of Thomas anywhere)
If he was a marine engineer, could Thomas have been born elsewhere in England? Or even off the continent?
I know I am reaching here, but it is very puzzling.

update:
I just found our Thomas' birth. A birthplace of South Wales is listed! The "grooms parents" listed are actually the brides parents, with Hindmand being a transcription error for Hindmarsh.
....South Wales?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTCL-XQT

update:
found an ancestry.com family tree which lists his birth as 24 Oct 1832 at Begelly Parish, Pembroke County, South Wales. There user has no parents for Thomas listed and no batch number etc  . I cant find this birth by doing my own search, maybe I am looking at the wrong genealogy site (igi)?

Should I get this post moved to the Wales section?

[osprey]

Bawden is a common enough name in Cornwall, he may have been born there. Problem is that you have no pointers to search from. He's not on any census, he marries before civil registration, so there's only a parish record. The Bawden witness is probably related, but there's planty of Edward Bawdens in the area.

I don't suppose his death reg is one of those that has names of parents on it?

 

[jmusher]

I dont have a death registration for William... he drowned in Australia in 1941, two years after arriving, when Thomas was 8. NSW births deaths and marriages has nothing (that I can find).
So we are stuck. 

****I am going to post a question regarding the birth of Thomas Bawden in the Wales forum****

(I hope this isnt the dreaded double posting we are warned about.)

[osprey]

err, it is actually. You need to link to this post if you do that so people don't waste effort.

What makes you think he may have Welsh connections? It's certainly not a Welsh surname in origin.

 

[jmusher]

here is the link:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,580678.0.html

Sorry about that.
Here is why I am looking at Wales for Thomas:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTCL-XQT

[krisesjoint]

Hi Jodie and Osprey,

Application for Assisted travel lists

William BAWDEN of Marizon [sic] Cornwall, the son of William BAWDEN of the same place, Mine Agent.

William BAWDEN was aged 39 years in April 1838 baptism certified 5 Apr 1800 St  (Image included, and moved to general board for viewing)
Henry FRANCIS, Paul HANCOCK and William CRAPP (all of Wheal Virgin) certified to him being of very good Character.
Calling Engineer
His health was very good,
Religion Wesleyan,
He could read and write

Mary H BAWDEN aged 40 years on the 23 July 1838, a native of Marizon, [sic] daughter of John and Martha WILLIAMS of St Hillary, farmer
Calling - always assisted with her parents farm
baptisms certified 12 Aug 1798 by Thos [BISSIN]? Vicar
no certificate of character
health good
Religion C of E
Could read and write

Child Thomas aged 6 years on the 24 Oct 1838 (no certificate)

Australian Town and Country Journal 27 Feb 1897, list Thomas as from Pembrokeshire

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/71290453

Cheers Kris 

[jmusher]

WOW! Thanks  ... now if only we could read that word!

looks like "ane" at the end of the word.

So Williams father was a William as well and a mine agent from Maraizon?

GREAT  

We are getting somewhere now!
...and Pembrokshire, you found it. nifty.

Where can I find the complete document? Is it publicly available?


Thankyou

[krisesjoint]

Hi Jodie,

Unfortunately there is no parish in Cornwall to match what I am looking at here, which to me looks like Saint Wiane. (St Wenn is the only thing to spring to mind-could be possibly how the accent was interpreted, but no luck with a baptism to match)

http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Entity.aspx?Path=\Series\5314

Cheers Kris 

[jmusher]

Hi Kris,
It is a shame, but I am happy that we now know more than we did before.
I very much appreciate the help from both you and Osprey.
...William just doesn't want to be found.