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Re: We know these Sheridans were alive in 1883 but what happened next? Help please!
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 12 February 12 22:05 GMT (UK) »
We are really impressed with all the help we are being give here to finally find out about this family that seems to have been hiding for so long.

I've found a possibility for son Francis in the 1901 census, with a possible marriage to Jane Jan-Mar 1888.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Louth/Fair_Gate/Green_Lanes/1567128/

Is there any way of fnding out a surname for her before I send for certificates?

Greeney (Grinney); Bulley; Bentham; Holme; Sheridan; Clifton; Massey; Clarke;

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Re: We know these Sheridans were alive in 1883 but what happened next? Help please!
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 12 February 12 22:11 GMT (UK) »
Her name was Jane CURRY

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Re: We know these Sheridans were alive in 1883 but what happened next? Help please!
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 12 February 12 22:14 GMT (UK) »
Tara - how did you do that ?
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Re: We know these Sheridans were alive in 1883 but what happened next? Help please!
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 12 February 12 22:25 GMT (UK) »
I will pm you !

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Re: We know these Sheridans were alive in 1883 but what happened next? Help please!
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 12 February 12 23:34 GMT (UK) »
Are you going to look into the WINTERS line

The marriage of Peter Winters and Anne Mullen is on ifhf in 1836 in Louth

ifhf is showing 7 children baptised to this couple

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Re: We know these Sheridans were alive in 1883 but what happened next? Help please!
« Reply #32 on: Monday 13 February 12 10:41 GMT (UK) »
Having considered the best way forward we have decided to:


send for Francis and Jane's marriage certificate as this will give us access to more information and will also give us the witnesses at their marriage. We already know that the witnesses at Rose Ann's marriage were Francis and Catherine Sheridan


look for Anne Winters Sheridan's death as this must be between 1883 when John signed up and 1901 when John is on the census as a widower


look for anything we can find about the birth of Anne Kenny (1901 census)/ Kelly (1911 census)


Try to find out what happened to the Kennys who we can't find in the 1901 census, and whose baptisms pre 1900 had all been in St Mary's Donnybrook as regular as clockwork. From the 1911 census it is clear there are at least 3 children born between 1904 and 1909. She is 50 in 1911. Is this the right Rose Kenny? - she says she has been married 23 years and we know she was married in 1890. Her birthplace is correct, however Thomas Kenny who she married gave Wicklow as his birthplace, on the census it gives Carlow. She claims she has had had 7 children with 7 living, but if she had Anne (living with grandparents?) and Mary whose baptism is in Donnybrook on the day of her birth 0n 12 Nov 1894 and doesn't subsequently appear, that would make 9! However, some of the 'family names' do add up!

]ook up the marriage of Peter Winters and Anne Mullen 1836 in Louth and their baptised children, as suggested by Tara.

Any comments? Please?!
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Re: We know these Sheridans were alive in 1883 but what happened next? Help please!
« Reply #33 on: Monday 13 February 12 10:49 GMT (UK) »
This looks like the death of Anne Winters Sheridan - which was just before the 1901 census

It states she was about 70 when she died:

Anne Sheridan
Date Jan-Feb-Mar 1901
District: Drogheda
Volume 2 Page 369

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Re: We know these Sheridans were alive in 1883 but what happened next? Help please!
« Reply #34 on: Monday 13 February 12 10:50 GMT (UK) »
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Try to find out what happened to the Kennys who we can't find in the 1901 census, and whose baptisms pre 1900 had all been in St Mary's Donnybrook as regular as clockwork.
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however Thomas Kenny who she married gave Wicklow as his birthplace, on the census it gives Carlow.
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Based on the baptism records, the family seem to have lived at 10 Eglington Terrace from 1896 at least but I see no sign of the street on the 1901 returns - maybe it's one of the unfilmed or missing streets ?

Some RC parishes overlap counties Wicklow and Carlow - e.g. Hackettstown - so maybe Thomas came from one of these ?


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Re: We know these Sheridans were alive in 1883 but what happened next? Help please!
« Reply #35 on: Monday 13 February 12 10:58 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that, Shane.

Unfortunately on the marriage cert we only have Wicklow, so maybe we'd have to start tracing father Bartholomew, hoping that that would give us a clue. He, or another Bartholomew was a supporter at Mary's baptism in 1894, but given Thomas age (from the 1911 census age given, he would be around 53 at this time), Bartholomew could well be in his 70s by 1901. Mind you, old John Sheridan was still living aged 75!

I have nagging concerns about whether we have the right Rose and Thomas... The number of children, Ann(i)e, her age when the last child is born...
Greeney (Grinney); Bulley; Bentham; Holme; Sheridan; Clifton; Massey; Clarke;