1841 and or 1851 Heathfield

[suey]

A big ask, can someone help please...

Trying to find Elizabeth and George Naylor/Nailard Napp, I don't have ages for either of them  however they married in Heathfield in May 1840.
Not sure when either of them died but they had two known children George Thomas born c1841 and Naomi born c1849.

Also in Heathfield Sarah Potten born c1786 with husband Thomas -
Thanks in advance
Suey

[sillgen]

They seem to be together ...  Broadhurst Farm F 412
Sarah Potten Hd wid 65 Farmer 100 ac emp 1 b Mountfield
George serv 19 unm ag lab b Burwash
Henry  son 37 unm b farmers son b Heathfield
Joseph son 26 Farmers son b Burwash
Thomas son 38 unm farmers son b Heathfield
Naomi Napp grand d 2 b Heathfield

Then some other Napps F 411 Swyfe
Hannah Hd wid 64 annuitant b Heathfield
George grandson 10
James grandson 10
James son wid 39 ag lab  all b Heathfield

There is another family in Hailsham workhouse
Francis 8
Henry 10
Loanda 6 all orphans and scholars at the union school
No sign of the parents.

Andrea

[suey]

Andrea, Thank you very much..

Seems to confirm that George and Elizabeth the parents of Naomi have died prior to 1851.

They are a muddle this family..George aged 10 with Hannah should be Naomi's brother, looks like the Grannies took in a child each..

The two James's are my Great Great and Great Grandpa's

Will check out Francis, Henry and Loanda at Hailsham.
Suey

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi Suey

Just spotted this in the 1841 census

HO107/ 1108/ 3/ Sched 21/ Page 1 - Swyfe Gate House, Heathfield

George Napp, 20 - Shoe m
Elizabeth Napp, 20
George Napp, 9months

All born in county of Sussex

Hope you were still looking for them

Chris in 1066 

[suey]

Thank you Chris, Yes, I was still looking for George and Elizabeth, am so pleased to find them together with young George -

this has to be one of my saddest families, 7 known children, one died in infancy and the other 5 orphans by 1851. The eldest and the youngest were each taken in by their Grandmothers but the middle three, Francis, Henry and Loanda ended up in the workhouse

Suey

[chrislb]

They seem to be together ...  Broadhurst Farm F 412
Sarah Potten Hd wid 65 Farmer 100 ac emp 1 b Mountfield
George serv 19 unm ag lab b Burwash
Henry  son 37 unm b farmers son b Heathfield
Joseph son 26 Farmers son b Burwash
Thomas son 38 unm farmers son b Heathfield
Naomi Napp grand d 2 b Heathfield

Can anyone tell me, if they know it, the name of the above mentioned Sarah Potten's husband?  My husband is a descendant of theirs and so far I haven't been able to find Mr Potten's name.....  I'm thinking maybe 'Thomas', 'Henry' or 'Joseph' though.  Any thoughts? suggestions?

btw my hubby is descended from them through Naomi Napp who married Henry (aka William) Ticehurst.

Thanks in advance!! Chrislb

PS Suey, I think we have had contact about this family before, both Nailard/Napp and Ticehurst's

[sillgen]

Hi
Suey's initial post above does say Sarah and husband Thomas so maybe she has full details?
Andrea

[chrislb]

Hi Andrea,

Yes she does mention Thomas and Sarah... but then Mrs Sarah Potten, widow, had a son Thomas and it didn't seem clear at the time that I looked at it!! If that makes sense??

So I guess that it is Thomas Potten then that is the father.  Anyone got any details on him? like where he was born etc? 

I have been away from the family search stuff for a while.....

Ciao! Chris

PS ok Andrea I went and reread the initial post from Sue.... yes it does say Sarah and husband Thomas... I must have missed that!! lol blame it on too long away from the family search and ... whatever *shrug* I haven't seen anything anywhere that mentions that Sarah's husband was Thomas which has been frustrating for me. but then I am in Aus so can't get my grubby (or not so grubby) little hands on any physical records...

[sillgen]

I did look for a marriage in Sussex for a Thomas to a Sarah and failed to find one so it would be interesting to know the source of the "husband Thomas" information.
After looking in 1841 for George  I realised that he is not a son - he is a servant and the only one who fits in 1841 is the 9 year old son of Mary Potten so tracing them may lead back to the father if they are relatives.
HO 107 1108/1 F7 p7
Cottage at Wheel Burwash
Mary Potten 30
George 9
John 7
Henry 4
Thomason? 2 all born in county

Just trying a bit of lateral thinking - for want of any other clues!
Andrea