Beatrice Eleanor Shaw

[rosie99]

I checked with one of the old aunts who says that  . . . .

Beware of old aunts!!!

Firstly, their memory may not be as good as they think!
Secondly, they may want/not want to "remember" certain facts?!

I'm not saying don't believe them, but we all have family stories that don't quite turn out the way they were remembered!

I'll second that.  Treat any information from anyone else (including us) as helpful but to be clarified with documentation where possible.

Rosie  (off to see what I can find) 

[rosie99]

Well both of these christenings give Mary Ann as mother so that blows my theory out of the water
 
St Peter Bradford
John Born 18th March 1867 christened 24th April 1867
Parents Samuel and Mary Ann Shaw
Resident Bowling
fathers occupation Joiner


St Stephen, Bowling
6th June 1875 Nathan son of Samuel and Mary Ann Shaw
resident Wootton  West Bowling father Cabinet Maker

[rosie99]

This Could be Abraham Wilkinson in 1841
Hall Lane, Bowling
H0107/1292 f 8/12 p16     
Abram Wilkinson 35 Wool Sorter   
Hannah  35   
John 4
Alfred  2
all born Yorkshire

No evidence of a Mary Ann though which would tie in with the 1841/2 birth

Don't forget adult ages were rounded down in 1841

[Maxk]

So do you think there are two Mary Annes.  One born in 1841 and one born in 1832?

maxk

[rosie99]

So do you think there are two Mary Annes.  One born in 1841 and one born in 1832?

maxk

I thought it was a possibility but only the birth certificates of the children if they are available would confirm it one way or another.  It seems strange to me that Mary Ann Wilkinson gives the same age more or less on the census when with her mother in 1871 and her marriage certificate and is then several years older for the rest of the records.

Rosie

[Maxk]

How do you get your info?

I have tried a number of sources but have not learnt much at all.  You and other on the post have put me a million miles ahead!
maxk

[rosie99]

Hi

Birth/Marriage/Deaths indexes -  free to view  http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Some Yorkshire Parish registers are on Ancestry, they also have census as does Findmypast but they are both subscription sites.  You can get trials on both of these sites but you need to put credit card details and then remember to cancel before the trial runs out.

[Maxk]

Samuel Shaw seems to be an enigmatic character.  One of the things we haven't figured out is how he got the Fulford Arms in York and who his parents, garandparents etc where
Maxk

[rosie99]

There is a christening at St John, Halifax 

Birth 16th January 1840
Christened 17th February 1840
Samuel son of John and Mary Shaw
resident Halifax
fathers occupation 'Wool sorter or Wool buyer'

Rosie