Request for help with Eastwoods in Sussex/Kent

[kerryb]

Hi I am posting this here - a recent private message that I was sent and I have not had chance to look at it.  Too busy with the current assessment on the genealogy course I am studying so was wondering if any of you Sussex Rootschatters out there might be able to help Caroline! 

Hi

I'm new to RootsChat, so please excuse any faux pas.  I'm trying to trace the Eastwood family decscended from William & Philadelphia Eastwood of Burwash, as I am descended from their grandson John.  However, in the 1861 census both John, his wife Ann (nee Reynolds) & their daughter Phoebe, & John's parents & siblings all appear to drop into a black hole.  Have you any idea what happened to them?  I'm assuming John jr was living near Dartford, as Phoebe was born 1860 Crockenhill, & their 2nd daughter Harrient was born 1862 Hook Hill, Wilmington, Dartford, which are only about 5 miles apart.

Any pointers towards possible sources would be much appreciated.

Many thanks

Caroline

Thanks

Kerry
 
PS I will post this thread in a pm back to Caroline so that she knows!

[omega 1]

Hello Kerry

Hope you Studies are going well & enjoying yourself.

Need to ask Caroline a couple of questions,would`nt want to get anything wrong.

Hopefully she will show her face soon

Kind Regards

omega

[KGarrad]

FreeBMD is not showing a Phoebe Eastwood in 1860, nor a Harriett Eastwood in 1862?

[omega 1]

Hello

I have been pecking away.

I THINK i may have found the family on the 1881 but need to know from Caroline if John junior was born in Kent

I found them in Dartford.A daughter Harriot was born 1862 Dartford.

Also a John Eastwood born C1815 Burwash & Wife Harriot,next door

omega

[ladynicotine]

Hi all

Yes, John Jr was born in Kent (Dartford).  I've got them in 1881, & in 1871 where the surname is mistranscribed as "Heastwood".

Both John & Harriet (nee Jennings) & John Jr & Ann seem to disappear into a black hole in the 1861 census.  John Jr & Ann were (apparently) married in 1860, same year Phoebe was born.  I've come accross numerous "John Eastwoods" recorded in the Maidstone Assizes records, so I'm wondering if this branch of the family was lying low at theat time for some reason.

Caroline

[omega 1]

Hello Caroline

Welcome to the Sussex Board

I have been looking for a marriage for John & Ann,must try harder.Will look on FindMyPast later.

That dreaded Black Hole,some of ours are in there too

Will keep on digging

Kind Regards

omega

[KGarrad]

I've looked on FreeBMD and FindMyPast.

Still can't find a birth for Phoebe or Harriet.
Can't find a marriage for John and Ann either?

[omega 1]

Hello

According to the 1871,the daughter born in 1860 was Matilda not Phoebe.

Could not find a birth reg for her but found a Harriet

Harriet Eastwood
Q2
1862
Dartford
2a 277

I like KGarrard could`nt find a marriage would appear they forgot.

omega

[ladynicotine]

Hi all

I've come accross the name Matilda on 1871 census as well.  Some time in the 1980's there was a family tree drawn up by solicitors.  Working backwards on that, it would give Phoebe's d.o.b as 1860 - the same as for Matilda - & I have a christening record for Phoebe in 1860.  Maybe Matilda was a middle name.  Still no trace of a birth record though, or for her sister Caroline (born 1867) who was my great great grandmother.

Given the family were apparently gypseys, I'm beginning to think they weren't too bothered about the "official" registering of births & marriages at that time, & I may not find them.

I shall continue though!

Caroline