Charlotte Sorrell 1821

[Keziah2]

I am struggling to find out what happened to Charlotte after her marriage in 1841.  The Gt Waltham parish reg records her marriage to a Charles GRUBSHAW 25 (wdr) on 22 Sep 1841 but I can find no trace of the couple after that. 


Can anyone please help me shed some light on the matter
Keziah

[TomRees]

Do you know what Charles' occupation was?

and the actual place that both were born?

Are you aware of the names of any children ?

[lizdb]

There seem to be very few Grubshaws around anywhere, and those that there are are mainly East London (Bethnal Green area)

There are these births - twins seemingly - that may belong to this couple

Oct/Nov/Dec 1844  Chelmsford Reg district
Ann Sophia Shingsley Grubshaw
John William Shingsley Grubshaw

John W S G dies in infancy.

But no sign in 1851 of Ann S S G

[Keziah2]

Well

Charlotte was certainly born Gt Waltham - daughter of John & Ruth (nee Kemp)

No sorry I have no idea of what Charles occupation was or his fathers name.

However I found a couple of Grubshaws (transcribed as Gurbshaw on Anc**) Sophia 19 & William 11 living with the Poulton family in Howe St, Gt Waltham - did think it highly likely they could be siblings of Charles.

I also found the bpt of a Charles Trubshaw 13 Nov 1808 Gt Waltham (Extract entry on familysearch) parents John & Mary but the date is about 8 years out if the age he gave when he married is accurate but what is 8 yrs.

There are 4 Trubshaw birth registrations in Chelmsford  - Ann 1842, Caroline 1849, Emily 1852, Roseanna 1857 but I haven't managed to find any of them on 1851 or 61CRs very frustrating.

Thanks for your help
Keziah

ps.  It looks like Caroline died 1851 & Emily 1855

[lizdb]

Oooh - Ruth Kemp! We have spoken before - she is a distant relation of mine (dtr of Samuel and Susanna Kemp).

Out of interest (sorry I am digressing from your actual question) we have recently found that a lot of the Kemps (incl some siblings of aforementioned Ruth) were involved at the Little Waltham Independent later United Reformed) Chapel. I have been going through the Non conformist records at Chelmsford recently, and filled many of my BMD gaps. I think most of the car park of the chapel (which sadly is built over the burial ground) must be built over Kemps! Anyway, I mention this is case you cant find any of Ruth's offspring - maybe they followed the family into Non- conformism.

Now off to look in the censuses again under
 Trubshaw .....! or similar

[Keziah2]

Yes Liz thats me

Have just found a Charles Trubshaw death reg in Dunmow DecQ 1841 12/36 but no Trubshaws in Dunmow 1841

K

ps.  I think the Methodist Chapel in Howe Street might now be something else too.

[lizdb]

1881
RG11 1390 23 39

has a William Grubshore aged 40 born Great Waltham, Essex!  Living with wife MAry Ann and child Alice in Edmonton, Middx

[lizdb]

When dtr Alice marries on 25 Dec 1890 in Edmonton, (father William Grubshaw, dealer), one of the witnesses is a Wells.

There is this marriage 16 May 1853, Bethnal Green -
William Grubshaw, brickmaker, to MAry Ann Wells both aged 19. His father being Charles Grubshaw, labourer.

But that would make him born 1834ish, though 1881 census suggested 1841ish and therefore a contender for a child of Charles and Charlotte of GW.

So although I thought it looked good - it is not really tying up so well. But thought I'd post it all for your consideration.

[lizdb]

In 1891
this Wm Grubshaw is at RG12 1083 94 18, still in Edmonton.
He and wife Mary both aged 50, so keeping with that 1841 year of birth.
So I reckon that marriage is not him - but maybe linked in some way.

Now gives pob as Chelmsford. But that is quite normal, I have found that as people have moved away from GW they tend to give the nearest big place (ie Chelmsford) as pob.

Married dtr living next door I think.