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FRANCE: A marriage look up please................
« on: Wednesday 22 February 12 13:34 GMT (UK) »
I am not a full member of ancestry but observed that  there is a marriage for Arthur James Vye-Parminter in France before 1902.

Wander if someone could have a look for me.

Arthur was born in 1864 Swansea but later moved to Yorkshire

Thank you

helina

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Re: FRANCE: A marriage look up please................
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 23 February 12 13:33 GMT (UK) »
http://www.geopatronyme.com/ shows one birth between 1891 and 1915 in Paris, in 9e.

So I looked at http://canadp-archivesenligne.paris.fr for the marriage, and sure enough, index shows:
Parminter, Arthur James Vye, 29 July 1897

The full record decsribes him as Arthur James Vye Parminter, born Swansea, Glamorgan, 17 September 1864, architect, residing in Paris at rue Gerando 3, son of James Chapman Vye Parminter and his wife Agnes Harvey, and his wife as Eugenie Maria Irma Gilliard, born at Marchiennes, Nord, 5 September 1870, with no profession, residing at the same address, daughter of the late Auguste Gillard, and of Catherine Poulle, his widow, residing in Marchiennes.

They had a child, Agnes Dora Eugenie, born Paris 19th January 1893. (French marriage records are very detailed - she was listed in the marriage because she was made legitimate, this suggests she was the only child).  You should look at the full record since I've just summarised and they also both signed the certificate.

Agnes' birth is also shown in 9e - although they weren't married at the time, Arthur recognised her as his at the time of her birth and she is listed under Parminter.
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Re: FRANCE: A marriage look up please................
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 23 February 12 13:44 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Jorose,  You have given me more information than I expected.

helina
Austin,Bistol
Coole,Bristol
Lewis, Bristol
Williams,Olveston
Howard,Bristol
Shepherd Admonsbury.
Tinney, Plymouth.
Ogborn,Bristol.
Blore.Derbyshire,Bristol,Redditch.
Richards,Bristol
Milson, Bitton
Harrison, Derbyshire
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Re: FRANCE: A marriage look up please................
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 23 February 12 18:08 GMT (UK) »
If you're interested in the Gilliard family, the Nord archives are online:
http://www.archivesdepartementales.cg59.fr/?id=recherche_etat_civil

At a quick glance it shows her birth (I might have got the date wrong off the marriage since it appears to be 5 December 1870, not September), and her parents' marriage in 1855. Looks like there's quite a few siblings as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Partridge
 - Agnes' husband is on wikipedia!
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Re: FRANCE: A marriage look up please................
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 27 September 23 12:04 BST (UK) »
Here are some articles on the family :
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3339443/3339451/78/%22Arthur%20Vye-Parminter%22
The Cambrian
18th March 1892
THE PALAIS DES BEAUX-ARTS OF LILLE.
SWANSEA MAN AT THE HEAD OF AFFAIRS THERE.
On Sunday last, was inaugurated the fine Monument, the Palais des Beaux-Arts of Lille, destined to contain the collection of paintings, sculpture and antiquities of the museums of the town, one of the richest and most complete collection in France. In 1880 it was decided to construct a Palais des Beaux-Arts for the reception of the collection of paintings, &c., then exhibited in the ancient ducal Palais du Rihour, and always more or less in danger of destruction by fire. It was decided that the necessary funds should be obtained by means of a lottery of five millions of tickets of one franc each. But lotteries were, owing to their great abuse, not in favour with the Government, and it was only after persistent demands were made that permission was granted to issue the tickets. The lottery produced a nett sum of three million francs. A competition amongst architects was opened, the winning competitors being Messieurs Beraid & Delmar, of Paris, who carried off the prize by the originality of their design. The palace has cost a round sum of six million of francs, the town of Lille finding the funds above those produced by the lottery. The surface of ground occupied by the building (of which only the half is at present completed) is about 160,000 square feet. The monument is constructed of an excellent stone for carving purposes, coming from the quarries of Soignies, Belgium. The floors and roofs are entirely constructed of iron on stone vaulting, all risk of fire being thus avoided. The basement contains the heating apparatus, consisting of 400 hot water stoves, supplied from the central heating chambers, situated at 400 yards from the building, and communicating with the palace by means of a tunnel traversing the boulevard. The heating alone has cost nearly £7000. The ground floor contains en facade an immense vestibule 250 feet long by 70 feet broad, destined to receive the sculpture, and is one of the largest and best lighted sculpture galleries in France. The lateral galleries are occupied by the museums of Art and Trade and Antiquities. The floor is most beautifully laid in colored mosaic. Four five angle pavilions connect the galleries. Two circular staircases, the domed ceilings of which are richly decorated with costly mosaic, lead to the upper story. Here the galleries follow the same disposition as those of the ground floor; the grand salon d'honneur, 180 feet by 50 feet, is worthy of attention, its vaulted ceiling decorated with harmonious coloring, giving appearance of great height.

In these galleries the lover of old masters may spend many a delightful hour amongst the chef d'oeuvres of the French and Flemish painters - the Watteau, the Rubens, Vandyke, Murillo, &c., &c., will delight his heart. Not to forget the famous “Fète en cire,” supposed to be by the hand of Raphael (a bust in colored wax of a young girl), and almost more highly prized by the town than the rest of its treasures.

All credit is due to the architects, and to the sous-architect, Mr. Arthur Vye-Parminter, for the splendid result obtained. Mr. Arthur Vye Parminter (son of Mr. J. C. Vye-Parminter, J.P., Swansea), has had the control of the work at Lille, after having followed the preliminary work necessary at Paris.

The inauguration fete was a very successful affair, and blessed with fine weather. In the evening a sumptuous banquet was offered by the Mayor.


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Re: FRANCE: A marriage look up please................
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 27 September 23 12:05 BST (UK) »
The death of Arthur Vye-Parminter's father : https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3341596/3341603/68/Parminter
The Cambrian
6th November 1896
DEATH AND FUNERAL OF MR. J. C. VYE-PARMINTER, J.P.
The death of Mr. J. C. Vye-Parminter, J.P., which took place suddenly last Friday morning at his residence, Exeter Villa, Uplands, has occasioned considerable regret in Swansea, where the deceased was very well known. Mr. Parminter, whose wife is an accomplished artist, was 61 years old, but he carried his age remarkably well, and few would believe from his appearance that he was amongst the oldest magistrates in Swansea. He was raised to the magisterial bench in 1878, and there have been few magistrates more faithful in attention to their duties. He attended nearly every Thursday, and was, therefore, engaged in the hearing and decision of many very important cases. He was a staunch Conservative, and in the capacity of agent for the West Glamorganshire Division, he rendered good services to the cause. Mr. Parminter came of a good Bristol family, and has always been appreciated in Swansea as a genial gentleman and a worthy citizen. Up to and including the Wednesday preceding his death he seemed in excellent health, and had only just deposited in the keeping of the Royal Institution the admirable portrait of the late Rev. E. B. Squire, which his wife, the artist, had presented to the permanent collection of the Institution. Mr. Parminter was a member of the Royal Institution for about 30 years, and at the time of his death he was a vice-president, and shared with Mr. H. C. Portsmouth the duties of hon. curator of the fine arts. On Thursday the first symptoms of illness manifested themselves, and Mr. Parminter retired to bed early. His condition became very serious later in the evening, and Dr. Jabez Thomas was immediately summoned. The patient was found to be suffering from an apoplectic seizure, and in spite of assiduous medical attention he expired at 2.30 on Friday morning. He leaves a widow and two sons, the Mr. Arthur Vye-Parminter, is an architect in Paris, and the younger, Mr. Harry Vye Parminter is engaged in the Swansea coal.

SYMPATHETIC REFERENCE BY THE STIPENDIARY MAGISTRATE.
On taking his seat, in company with Mr. Simon Goldberg, at the Swansea Police court on Monday morning, Mr. J. Coke Fowler, the learned Stipendiary Magistrate, said: “Before we enter upon the business of the court I wish to express my regret, and that of Mr. Goldberg and many other magistrates, for the loss, by a sudden and fatal illness, of the late Mr Vye Parminter. He had for many years attended the Petty Sessions on Thursdays. He always gave a close attention to the proceedings, and earnestly endeavoured to arrive at correct and just decisions. We lament his loss, and desire also to express our sympathy with his widow and family."

THE FUNERAL.
The funeral took place on Monday afternoon, the interment being in the graveyard of St. Peter's Church, Cockett. A large number of the friends of the deceased gentleman accompanied the remains to the graveside, the chief mourners being Mr. Arthur Vye-Parminter and Mr. Harry Vye-Parminter (sons), the deceased's brother, and Mr. T. O. Dixon. Amongst those also present were Mr. J. Coke Fowler (Stipendiary), Dr. Howell Thomas, J.P., Mr. Roger Beck, Mr. Albert Mason, J.P., Mr. R. Glascodine, J.P., Mr. Montgomery Williams, Mr. T. P. Martin, Mr. J. R. Leaver, Mr. J. Leaver. Mr. and Mrs. Philip Rogers (De-la-Beche-street), Mr. Wm. Thomas, J.P., Mr. R. Eaton, Mr. Jenkin Jones (magistrate's clerk), Mr. Evan Lewis (representing the Royal Institution of South Wales), Mr. T. H. Stevens, and others. The body was enclosed in a polished oak coffin, with massive brass mountings, and the breast-plate bore the following inscription :—

“James Chapman Vye-Parminter, died 30th October, 1896, aged 61 years.”

Over the violet pall that covered the coffin were placed some handsome wreaths from members of the family, Sir J. T. D. Llewelyn, Bart., M.P., Mr. and Mrs. Wyrill, Mr. and Mrs. Small, Mr. T. Dixon, Mr. W. Robinson Smith, Madame A. H. Follett, the Swansea Conservative agents, the Gower Division Conservative agents, and the officers of St. James’s Church, which place of worship the deceased gentleman and his family attended. The officiating clergymen were the Rev. J. A. Harriss (curate-in-charge of St. James's Church), and the Rev. D. Roderick (vicar of Cockett).


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Re: FRANCE: A marriage look up please................
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 27 September 23 12:06 BST (UK) »
The death of Arthur Vye-Parminter's mother : https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4100689/4100693/66/Parminter
The Cambria Daily Leader
28th December 1915
LOCAL OBITUARY
Mrs. Vye Parminter.
The death has occurred at King Edward-road, Swansea, of Mrs. J. C. Vye Parminter, widow of the late Mr. J. C. Vye Parminter, J.P., who in his time was a prominent local Conservative. Mrs. Vye Parminter was an accomplished artist.

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Re: FRANCE: A marriage look up please................
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 27 September 23 12:23 BST (UK) »
The marriage in Paris is here:

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01soy/

Page 9/20, Entry 796.

Sorry the site doesn't have a direct link to the relevant page.
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Re: FRANCE: A marriage look up please................
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 27 September 23 12:27 BST (UK) »
Could this be "your" Agnes Dora Vye-Parminter : Name   Agnes D Vye-Parminter
Event Type   Marriage Registration
Event Date   1925
Event Place   Kensington, London, England
Registration District   Kensington
Page   487
Volume   1A
Affiliate Line Number   150
Registration Year   1925
Registration Quarter   Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse Name (available after 1911)   Partridge
Possible Spouse   Eric H Partridge