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Dicksons - Mouswald / Torthorwald/ Dalton and Caerlaverock
« on: Sunday 15 May 05 02:30 BST (UK) »
Hi all  I've been attempting to doing the Tree thing and have found we come from the Mouswald / Torthorwald area of Dumfriesshire in the main on my grandfathers side.
 
We are desperately looking for someone with similar origins.

We have traced the line we believe to Richard Dickson of Mousewald & Elspeth Dickson of Byers married in Caerlaverock in 1768, we believe they had 7 children. Elspeth's father was a John Dickson of Byers which we believe is Byers Farm near the Caerlaverock church north of Bankend. 

Their children were:
Margaret 1773-?
John 1776-1856, m. Isabella Gibson c1777-?
Charlote 1779-1861, m. William Brown 1777-?
Jean 1781-1870, m. John Fell c1795-1874
Christian 1784-1855, m. Robert Leivers c1779-?
Robert 1787-?
Thomas 1790-1869

Their youngest son Thomas was a farmer and blacksmith in Woodside, married Mary Glendinning b. 1790-1876 from Mouswald around 1809 in Mouswald.  They had 11 children, 4 we believe in Dalton and the rest in Mouswald:
Elspeth (Eppie) 1810-1816 Mouswald,
James 1812- ? Mouswald,
Janet 1814-1903 Dalton, m. Richard Grierson 1814-1897
Richard 1816-1819 Dalton,
Robert 1820-1890 Dalton, m. Agnes Dalrymple 1811-?
John 1821-1846 Dalton, m. Elizabeth White 1818 - ?
Jacob 1823-1896, m. Jane Wells/Walls 1832-1911
Thomas 1825-1910, m. Margaret Buckham c1825- 1907
David 1828-1898, m. Jane McKenzie c1828-?
Jane 1832-1899, m. Charles Jardine 1825-1874 died in New York USA
Mary 1833-1907, m. James Jardine 1835-?

Jacob married Jane Wells 1832- 1911 in 1856 and had 10 children,
James Campbell 1853-1927, m. Agnes Fraser c1854-1925
Thomas 1856-1932, m. Mary Brown (Broun) c1855-1913
John 1858-1929, m. Janet Hutchison 1859-1936
Robert 1860-1929, Single
Alexander Grierson 1862-1950, m. Mary Shennan 1862-1942
Margaret 1864-1934,  Single
Mary 1866-1934, Single
Grace 1868-?,
Janet 1870-1938, Single
Jacob 1872-1938, Single

Jacob's son, Thomas married Mary Broun(Brown)c1855-1913 from Urr Kircudbright in Glasgow in 1876 and had 7 children + 1 Stepchild,
Margaret (Maggie) 1871-? b.Urr, (step daughter)
Agnes 1877-1903 b.Torthorwald,
Jacob 1880-1883 b.Rutherglen,
Mary c1883-? Glasgow,
Thomas 1885-1935 b.Mouswald,
Robert 1887-? b. Mouswald,
James 1891-1891 Torthorwald,
Janet 1893-? Torthorwald.

The family seemed to run the Woodside Smithy for many years.

My grandfather Thomas b.1885 came to Australia abt 1909, married Agnes Thomson Neilson, b.1889 Glasgow d. 1941 Mt. Isa Queensland, in 1912.  Thomas died in Brisbane Queensland in 1935.

If anyone has vague connections to this line or knows someone who knows someone, it would be great to fill in the blanks. We are currently trying to get information on the siblings and their families up and down the line. We have been using the LDS IGI site, GROS etc but can only go so far without more clues like which sibling married who.   We are having more success on our grandmothers side.   All connections with Scotland died with my grandmother in 1941 (24 years before I born) and my father is 83 and has dementia and all his siblings are dead.

Thanks in advance,

Michael Dickson :)

 
Dumfries -Campbell, Dickson, Glendinning, Grierson, Irving, Jardine, Wells, also Beattie, Brown, Buckham, Charters, Dalrymple, Fell, Ferguson, Fraser, Gibson, Graham, Hutchison, Leivers, Nichol, Mckenzie, Nicholson, Smith, White, McLean
Kirkcudbright - Dickson, Broun/Brown, Shennan
Glasgow-Dickson, Neilson, Thomson, Fleming, Mackenzie, Dennison
Edinburgh- Dickson, Buckham
Ayrshire-McIlwrick, McMurray, Gray, Findlay
Limerick - Shea / O'Shea, Carroll
Kerry - Egan
Sussex - Towner

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Re: Dicksons - Mouswald / Torthorwald
« Reply #1 on: Friday 20 May 05 10:40 BST (UK) »
Hiya Michael,

A very warm welcome to Rootschat.

1768!! You've done really well  ;D

You've done the right thing posting here your post will be picked up by Google if anyone is searching for like named people.

This is a really good way of searching for other researchers.

You may pick up interests posted on other boards or lists.

On this site we have a "SIT" not just when we are knackered but at the bottom of the table our sparkling Berlin Bob has designed.  If you plug your names into that other Rootschatters can see your interests and match them to their own.

If there any specific look ups on census you would like please post a new message here on the board.  Look ups can be slow as the census unavailable on the Scotlandspeople site are in the majority unindexed.

I wish you the best of luck and you never know if the Gods are smiling a fellow family member may pass by.

Pam
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
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Re: Dicksons - Mouswald / Torthorwald
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 September 05 08:10 BST (UK) »
Update to original post.

Further investigation has revealed the following on the children of Richard & Elspeth Dickson:

Margaret b 21/12/1773 - no more info

John b. 31/7/1776 d. 15/7/1856. Blacksmith. Married Isabella Gibson and had 1 child,
Robert b. 1800 d. 15/12/1871, married Janet Irving in 1815 and had 5 children:
Janet b 1825,
John b 1829,
Isabella b 1830,
Catherine b 1834 and
Thomas 1837.

Charlotte b. 15/4/1779 d. 26/8/1861 married William Brown and had 2 sons:
George b 1818 &
John b 1821

Jean b. 19/10/1781 d. 25/7/1870 married John Fell, Joiner, on 21/6/1830, no info on children.

Christian b.24/10/1784 d. 23/09/1855 married a Robert Leivers. They had 3 sons:
John b 1815 d 1836,
Joseph b 1817 d.? , m. Mary Jackson in 1850
Robert b. 1823 d. 1838.

Robert b. 22/04/1787 - no additional info

If anyone has anything on these lines it would be much appreciated.  Am able to provide further details if needed.

Cheers

Mick  8)
Dumfries -Campbell, Dickson, Glendinning, Grierson, Irving, Jardine, Wells, also Beattie, Brown, Buckham, Charters, Dalrymple, Fell, Ferguson, Fraser, Gibson, Graham, Hutchison, Leivers, Nichol, Mckenzie, Nicholson, Smith, White, McLean
Kirkcudbright - Dickson, Broun/Brown, Shennan
Glasgow-Dickson, Neilson, Thomson, Fleming, Mackenzie, Dennison
Edinburgh- Dickson, Buckham
Ayrshire-McIlwrick, McMurray, Gray, Findlay
Limerick - Shea / O'Shea, Carroll
Kerry - Egan
Sussex - Towner