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1909 Burial, could it be Whitley Bay?
« on: Friday 24 February 12 01:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,

I am trying to locate the burial of my Great Uncle Charles Henry Cruddace who died 28.1.1909 at Blencathra Sanatorium, Threlkeld, aged 29.

His last known address was in Gateshead but he isn't buried there, nor is he buried in the local Church of Threlkeld, St Mary's, so now I'm grasping at straws. His official next of kin would be his step-mother who by then had probably moved to Whitley Bay from Gateshead.

Would anyone be able to help by checking death notices in the local papers?

Regards,
Colin

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Re: 1909 Burial, could it be Whitley Bay?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 24 February 12 02:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Colin,

It would seem a bit of a journey for those days but it's possible.

Unfortunately the index of notices for the Newcastle Evening Chronicle only goes to 1906, wouldn't you know it.  There are a few Cruddace (and spelling variations) names on it though so thought some might be yours.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/DeathNotices/deaths_CRUD.html

There are one or two people on here who have access to the local papers - I'm sure one of them will be along tomorrow.

Christine

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Re: 1909 Burial, could it be Whitley Bay?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 24 February 12 08:39 GMT (UK) »
Colin,

  I shall have the opportunity to browse Evening Chronicle death notices ( on film in Newcastle City Library) this Sat or Sun ( I have to go drinking today ! )

 I notice you couldn't find his burial in Threlkeld local church ( Anglican)

 By 1909 perhaps Cumberland was like Northumberland and Durham, in that burials were more likely to
be in a "new" civic cemetery than in a "full" church graveyard.

 I agree with Christine in that his burial to home area was possible ( but there would have been a cost to it.

I worked in Penrith in the 1970s. I remember folk coming and going from Blencathra  hospital.
And for local authority admin purposes Blencathra/Threlkeld area fell into the Penrith area, rather than the closer Workington local authority. ( Admin boundaries in rural Cumberland caused surprises to me, from built-up south-east Northumberland- although Longbenton " belonging" to Tynemouth rather than Newcastle is in the same category ! )

Cumbria C C have burial records for it's civil cems. The nearest ones are Penrith and Cockermouth. . And a bit farther away, Carlisle and Whitehaven. Some Cockermouth cemetery monumental inscriptions are online, but no sign of a Cruddace !

Let's hope the Chronicle published his death notice.

Michael
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Re: 1909 Burial, could it be Whitley Bay?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 24 February 12 19:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Christine and Michael,

Thanks for the suggestion of the Evening Chronicle, but I am aware of them and most are mine. Charles Henry is the only burial I don't have and it is proving very elusive.

The local vicar at Threlkeld has confirmed that St Mary's is still accepting burials but their records do not include his burial. Gateshead have also been unable to find him in their cemetery records, and a Churchyard burial would be unlikely at that time.

He was a Clerk for NER, so it's possible that transportation by rail could have been arranged at no/minimal cost. As I say, I am really clutching at straws now.

Michael, thanks very much for the offer of checking, it's very good of you. I hope today's arduous task is not too depressing for you. We all have to tough it out sometimes  ;D ;D

Thank you both,
Colin


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Re: 1909 Burial, could it be Whitley Bay?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 24 February 12 23:19 GMT (UK) »
Colin,

I was able to fit in some research, before I had to go drinking.

 I covered the film of Chronicle Death Notices in Newcastle Library from 28 Jan 1909 to
6th Feb. No sign of him !

 Michael
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Re: 1909 Burial, could it be Whitley Bay?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 25 February 12 00:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Michael,

Glad to see that you survived the ordeal  :D

Thank you very much indeed for checking, I really appreciate you going to the trouble. Do you think that the Chronicle would include Whitley Bay entries, or was there a more local newspaper that may hold the entry?

I realise that you might not know the answer, but then again...., If I don't ask etc.

Regards,
Colin

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Re: 1909 Burial, could it be Whitley Bay?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 25 February 12 01:23 GMT (UK) »
 Colin,

 I don't know what the target population of the Chronicle was, in early 1900s, but I think it was fairly widespread into Northumberland and Durham.

 My family in Blyth, 12 miles from Newcastle, in 1950 onwards, read and "used" both the Chronicle and the local Blyth News.

 Whitley Bay about 7 miles from Newcaslte also had a local paper, but I think the Chronicle would have been it's main paper.

 The Chronicle Death Notices index is online. By browsing the index you will get idea of deceaseds home areas.....

 http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/DeathNotices

Michael
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Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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Re: 1909 Burial, could it be Whitley Bay?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 25 February 12 20:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Michael,

Thank you, what a good suggestion. I'm a little annoyed that I didn't think of it myself ;D

There are severeal entries for Whitley Bay and for Whitley, so it looks like further searching at Threlkeld.

Regards,
Colin

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Re: 1909 Burial, could it be Whitley Bay?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 25 February 12 22:22 GMT (UK) »

 Colin,

 After Threlkeld, I suggest you next go for Cockermouth civic cem.

 Michael
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Areas. Co Sligo, Co Leitrim, Co Mayo. IRELAND.
Ontario, CANADA
Lowell, Ma, USA
Counties of Northumberland & Durham, ENGLAND
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MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY  - with or without " O "
Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND

Census information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.