What a mixed up family!!

['Trish']

My 2 x great grandfather Edward Fear married Elizabeth Jane (aka Bessie Tamar) nee Bray married 30 Mar 1888 at Baptist Church, Axbridge. I believe there was 5 or more children born, Ernest, Francis, Albert, Elsie & May. Edward then had another 5 children by a lady called Elsie. I cant find Bessie's death. 1 of the 2nd family was Winifred Elsie b 22. 3. 1896, 41 George St, Weston-super-mare. I would love to know which children are from which mother? I believe  Bessie wasnt dead when the second family were being born, & did Edward marry Elsie, and who was she? Also could anyone tell me who all the children eventually married. All I have is Ernest married Florence surname unknown, Albert married Lydia surname unknown. Regards Trish

[CaroleW]

You need to give more info

Is Edward with Elsie in 1901 and is he shown as married?

Are the children by Bessie also with him in 1901?

Have you checked freebmd for the possible second marriage?

I believe  Bessie wasnt dead when the second family were being born

So have you looked for her on the 1901 census?

Have you searched freebmd deaths just under Fear - no christian name?

Were Edward & Elsie still together in 1911?  Do they say how many years they have been married?

[KGarrad]

1901 census has Edward still with Elizabeth?

Reference RG13, Piece 2325, Folio 105, Page 39
41 George Street, Weston-super-Mare

Fear, Edward  Head  M  35  Stone Mason  b W-S-M
Fear, Elizabeth  Wife  F  31  b Curry Rivel
Fear, Ernest  Son  M  12  b W-S-M
Fear, Frank  Son  M  10  b W-S-M
Fear, Eva  Daughter  F  8  b W-S-M
Fear, Albert  Son  M  6  b W-S-M
Fear, Elsie  Daughter  F  4  b W-S-M
Fear, May  Daughter  F  1  b W-S-M
Bird, John  Visitor  M  23  Journeyman Butcher  b Taunton

The Elsie (age 4) is your Winifred!
Births, March qtr 1896
Axbridge district (which included Weston-Super-Mare)    vol 5c, page 476

Fear, Elsie Winifred

[KGarrad]

Edward has died before the 1911 census!

December qtr 1908
Axbridge district    vol 5c, page 296
Fear, Edward    age 50

[CaroleW]

1 of the 2nd family was Winifred Elsie b 22. 3. 1896, 41 George St, Weston-super-mare.

How did you arrive at that conclusion?

['Trish']

I always believed Winifred was from the 2nd family. I am not sure if Edward did marry Elsie. He certainly had the other children though! Can anyone help with the children from the 2nd family? Regards Trish.

[KGarrad]

Elizabeth died also!

March qtr 1904
Axbridge district    vol 5c, page 365

Fear, Elizabeth    age 34


I don't believe there ever was a 2nd family!!

['Trish']

I was given the date of birth of Winifred many years ago, but was told that the parents of Winifred was Edward & Elsie. Regards Trish

[KGarrad]

Elsie Winifred's birth certificate would confirm.

I think someone was confused because the perdon they knew as Winifred, was actually regsitered as Elsie Winifred?