Gr Grandfather Help Needed Please

[taramcdsmall]

I think Shane mentioned this chap earlier BUT in 1911 this Patrick O'Shea is living at 32 Newmarket Street and in 1901 what we think is 'your' O'Shea family are living at 31 Newmarket Street - too much of a coincidence surely, both master tailors, brother of Michael B

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kerry/Caher/West_New_Street/102211/

I don't know whether this is another total coincidence but look at who is living at no 31 in 1911 (a few discrepencies tho)

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kerry/Caher/New_Market_Street/102173/

No joy with Margaret tho, even with every crazy spelling I could think of - but I'm sure given time she'll show up !

Maybe, she was taken on a business trip with her father ??

Tara

[heywood]

I too wondered that Tara- both Margaret and father missing so perhaps together. I have tried Maggie/Anne/Annie but to no avail.

Berni,
this doesn't really matter, I know, but I have looked on Ellis Island for those emigrants and can't match them. There are people of similar names but from different families.
I was wondering if they emigrated to the same place and people and Michael snr may have also visited?

[taramcdsmall]

Yes Heywood,

I was hoping she might show up with either set of grandparents - I tried all of Ireland putting in birth place as Kerry to narrow down the search but still nothing.

Bernie - if I was you I would try the English 1901 census next - HA I have this funny vision in my head of Michael B going to England on business and Margaret going with him (crazier has happened).

I know your Grandad Christopher ended up in Manchester - was there family there who maybe Michael B and Margaret visited in 1901 ?

Also missing though is Bartholomew Patrick b 1884 - did he die young or did he emmigrate before 1901

Tara

[Berni]

Hi Tara and Heywood
All I have for Bartholomew Patrick is his birth 25 Feb 1884
I'm thinking with all the Barthomew's in the family if he was known as Patrick
Tara I will look at the census links you posted
I have an aunt called Margaret but she is known to the family as Peggy
Perhaps Margaret Anne was known as Peggy too, I will certainly check England census
for Michael B and Margaret Anne
My grandparents ended up in Manchester because Gran had family living there
My dad who was 89 when he passed only ever mentioned Uncle Michael, so think if there were
O'Shea's in Manchester he would have mentioned them.
Also apart from birth I can't find info for Mary Catherine born 9 Feb 1885, Michael B had a sister Catherine
who he wrote to in US in 1887 referring to her as Kate, perhaps this Catherine was known by this name too.

[heywood]

As I said before, I can't see those emigrations on Ellis site. Perhaps you found them somewhere else?

Did they all go to the same place/relatives?

[Berni]

Hi Heywood
John Valentine arrived in New York 17 May 1907 aboard SS Carmania
He went to New York to carry on his work with the Commercial Cable Company
Michael Joseph arrived in Boston 9 Jun 1910 he gives aunt Kate for his address
ship name Cymric
Margaret Anne was travelling on the same ship with her brother Michael Joseph
So sorry but until now I didn't even realise they were travelling together 

Interestingly I have just found a Miss Margaret O'Shea arriving in London 17 Jun 1902
from New York aboard the Minnehaha  (could this be Margaret who is missing from 1901 census?)

[heywood]

That's why I can't see them on Ellis site 

I was trying to see if there were any other sightings of the family going to the same place/person.

[taramcdsmall]

Those ship records for Maggie and Michael state that their next of kin was their uncle Bart O' Shea High Street Caherciveen.

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kerry/Caher/High_Street/102123/

Him, I presume !

Tara