Quirk family Lambfell Beg

[debenham]

1881 Census shows Quirk family farming at Lambfell Beg.

Elizabeth ,widow is head of family.

Details of Elizabeth's  Marriage/ Spouse/ Parents, in fact anything relevant

[suzard]

Can you give more details??

Elizabeth's y.o.b., p.o.b.

census reference

do you have her on other census -or are you seeking that kind of info too??

Suz

[debenham]

According to the 1881 census head of household  Elizabeth (widow)  was born in German in 1821.

I have a link from her daughter/granddaughter?, Elizabeth Ann born German 1871 (my great grandmother) but I need to trace earlier family members.

The reason I am not sure about the daughter/grandaughter relationship is the 50 year age difference between Elizabeth and Elizabeth Ann.
also in 1881 Elizabeth has a son William (widower) born 1846 living in the household who would be old enough to be the father of Elizabeth Ann.

[JJen]

Have linked these two together posts together to avoid duplication. 

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,586775.0.html

On the newspaper article I mentioned it shows that Elizabeth (widow in 1881) was married to Robert Quirk and who passed away in 1872. The article has statements from his sons and wife.
 
JJ

[KGarrad]

This is the 1881 census:
Reference RG11, Piece 5596, Folio 81, Page 8
Lambfell Beg, German, Isle of Man

Quirk, Elizabeth  Head  Widow  F  60  Farmer of 120 Acres
Quirk, William  Son  Married  M  35  Farmer
Quirk, Richard  Son  Unm  M  28  Farmer
Quirk, Ellena  Daughter  F  22  Employee on Farm
Quirk, Jane  Daughter  F  15  Employee on Farm
Quirk, Joseph  Son  M  11  Scholar
Quirk, Robert  Son  M  8  Scholar
Quirk, ELizabeth Ann  Daughter  F  10  Scholar                       all born German

[suzard]

Here are the family in earlier census (looks more like Elizabeth -because of age-was grandmother  to Elizabeth Ann - )

1871
Lambfell German I.O.M.

Robert Quirk Head M 67 Farmer Landowner of 60 acres
Elizabeth wife 52
Richard son 18
Ann daughter 22?
Catherine daughter 17
Margaret daughter 16
Eliza daughter 14
Robert son 12
Eleanor daughter 10
Christian daughter 5 (twins)
Jame daughter 5
James Edwards grandson 1
all b German
RG10 5771 88 11

1861
Lambfell german I.o.m.
Robert Quirk Head M 59 Farmer of 60 acres
Elizabeth wife 40
James son 20
John son 18
William son 17
Elizabeth daughter 15
Anne daughter 14
Richard son 8
Catherine daughter 7
Margaret daughter 5
Eliza daughter 3
Robert son 1
Phillip Quirk Lodger U 50 Tailor Michael Isle of Man
all b German -unless stated otherwise
RG9 4420 60 9

1851
Lambfell Moar german Isle of Man
Robert Quirk head M 48 Farmer of 60 acres emp 2 men
Elizabeth wife 33 Marown Isle of Man
James son 10
John son 8
William son 7
Elizabeth daughter 5
Ann daughter 3
Robert son 11mth
Richard Stephens servant  Ploughman Ireland
Thomas McAvon serv 23 ag lab
Catherine Quirk serv 23 general servant
Catherine Layle visitor 19 dressmaker
Phillip Quirk Lodger U 41 Tailor Michael Isle of Man

all b German unless stated otherwise
HO107 2523 23 6

Suz

[suzard]

1841
Lambfell Moor german Isle of man
Catherine Quirk 70 ind
Robert 35 farmer
Elizabeth 20
Thomas McFee 20 M.S.
Richard Stephen 15 M.S.
Jane Quayle 20 F.S.
Catherine Quirk 14 F.S.
James Quirk 1

next door
James Quirk 25 ag lab
Ann 20
Ann 4

all b Isle of Man
HO107 1463 7 8 11

Suz

[debenham]

Between 1861 and 1881 William born c1844 did not appear on the family census. When he returned on 1881 he was a widower. There is a likelyhood that the 3 youngest children:- Joseph, Elizabeth Ann and Robert were William's children.
I will have to look for them on the 1871 census, to see if they were a family, and hopefully find their mother.
Elizabeth Ann is the important one to establish a link for.

[JJen]

Hopefully this could be of help to you -   

William Quirk
event: Marriage
03 Jun 1869
German, Isle of Man 
marital status: Single
father: Robert Quirk
spouse: Eleanor Kewish
spouse's marital status: Single
spouse's father: Patrick Kewish

Children of William Quirk and Eleanor Kewish -

Elizabeth Ann Quirk
19 Nov 1871
baptism - SAINT JOHN THE EVANGELIST,KIRK GERMAN,ISLE OF MAN,ENGLAND
father's name: William Quirk
mother's name: Eleanor Kewish
C03814

Robert Patrick Quirk gender: Male
 01 Feb 1874
baptism - SAINT JOHN THE EVANGELIST,KIRK GERMAN,ISLE OF MAN,ENGLAND
father's name: William Quirk
mother's name: Eleanor Kewish
C03814-1

Death of Eleanor Quirk -
QUIRK, Eleanor 28 German 9 Jan 1876

Therefore with the info above I feel sure that your Elizabeth Ann is the daughter of William Quirk and granddaughter of Elizabeth. The only sure way to prove this would be to purchase her marriage certificate.

Just a bit of extra info - In 1872 (when his father passed away) William was living in Ballacarnane Moar, Kirk Michael.

JJ