Arthur Crabtree born 12 October 1892

[Janette]

Hi SNG,

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Cheers Janette

[Janette]

From what I remember my mother saying - Ernest paid for Arthur to travel to NZ. He seemed to prosper in NZ and was a respected business man from all accounts. It must have been highly embarassing for him when Arthur stole from them.

I wonder if that was family folklore to keep face
stranger things have happened in families

Cheers Janette

[Special Needs Girl]

Hi Janette.

No I believe Ernest was quite wealthy.  He 'married into money'  as the saying goes.

Also reading the articles in the NZ papers he was a hotelier and always seemed to be donating to charities etc.

He travelled to the UK a few times to see his family - that cannot have been cheap.

I also found an article which implied that a lot of money had been won on the horses but hadn't been paid up so May Crabtree took the chap to court.

Ernest & May had no children and photos we have of them show a posh car, furs and high lifestyle while back in the UK their youngest brother was a miner in a small Welsh village and their sister doing dressmaking alterations for people and 'ghost' writing for a very famous author (when she could) and not getting her own recognition for her writing.

Arthur was definately a thorn in everybody's side.  BUT .... his lfe had been terrible and perhaps he envied his older brother's life in NZ.  He saw the charity money as a quick way to make money on Christmas Eve.

Best wishes
SNG

[spades]

Images sent.

Spades

[Special Needs Girl]

Thanks VERY much Spades, they are absolutely fantastic.

And thank you so much for taking time and effort to visit the archives department to take the photos.

I am now going to study them.

Thanks again

SNG

[Louie McMillan-Grant]

Hi there, I'm a descendant of Rupert and Maggie Crabtree and am tracing back the line and trying to find Arthur as well. Perhaps I could be of some help