bethnal green parish records

[carol at tankerton towers]

Hi, I am a newcomer to this and now have to look up my first birth  in the parish records for Bethnal Green 1860, I have never done this before so not too sure what to do, do I have to come to Bethnal Green? or can I access these records on line. I and others have looked for this person in the normal birth registers to no avail.

many thanks, Carol

[casalguidi]

Hi Carol

Assuming they were C of E, you have a number of churches to choose from to try and locate the christening/baptism:

http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/MDX/BethnalGreen/churches.htm

Enquire at the London Metropolitan Archives (or search their catalogue) for available records.

http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/Corporation/leisure_heritage/libraries_archives_museums_galleries/JAS/lma/lma.htm

Alternatively, you can search the LDS library catalogue http://www.familysearch.org to see which records they have filmed and order them for viewing at your nearest family history centre - see the site for locations.

Best wishes

Casalguidi

[Sylviaann]

Carol

You have set yourself a very hard task if you are going to look at Bethnal Green Parish registers.  There are a lot and the problem is the person may not have been baptised in Bethnal Green itself but in the surrounding districts. or even somewhere else entirely.

What name are you looking for.  Have you found them in any census? What "normal" birth registers have you checked.  Are they registered under another name.  Although some people do not get registered it is unusual and they are usually there somewhere.

Have you checked Freebmd or 1837online.  Have you tried name variations?

If you tell us the name and what information you have someone may be able to help.  I can't promise but you never know.

Sylviaann

[carol at tankerton towers]

I am looking for a MARY ANN ELIZABETH ELGRAM, born 1860 (she was 19 at the time of her marriage, for which I have a certificate, when she married Joseph French in  August 1879.  Her daughters b/c states that her mothers maiden name was ELGRAM. Fathers name at her time of marriage is also listed as ELGRAM.

I have searched on the census and found an ELDEN in 1861 for that name ,I have also searched ancestry.co. and found an entry for ELDEN in Sept 1860, for a Mary Ann Elizabeth

thanks for your advice and assistance

Carol

[casalguidi]

Hi Carol

Where did she marry?  Marriage witnesses?  Father's forename & occupation?  Was there an address listed for her?

Have you found her on 1871 census?

I assume that 1881 and later census give her birthplace as Bethnal Green?

Best wishes

Casalguidi

[carol at tankerton towers]

Hi, Mary ann married at St Thomas church, parish of Bethnal green on 3/8/1879. fathers name william elgram, he wa a mariner, address 24 orange street. witnesses isabella wightman and either frances/james Goodwin?

cant find them on the census until she gets married to joseph john french, but have found an Elden, full name ties up, at 10 Essex St Bethnal Green, rg9/260 st Jude, no 17, folio 61, page 33/34, mother also named as Mary ann

1901 census give birthplace at whitechapel

thanks so much for your help, am just realising how much I DON'T know,

Carol

as a newcomer to this, don't know whether to presume they are the same family?

[Biker]

Hi Carol,

Welcome and don't worry we all start somewhere - your're doing fine so far 

Since Casalguidi isn't online at the mo, just so that others who may want to help here is the 1861 census entry I think you're referring to:

1861

10 Essex Street, Bethnal Green
 
Mary Ann Elden 27 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Wife 
William Elden 22 Lambeth, Surrey, England Head
Mary A E Elden 9 months Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Daughter 

William is a Bricklayer

RG9/260
Folio:    61 
Page:    34

Regards
Jonathan

[carol at tankerton towers]

that them alright, only found them on saturday, not sure if to presume that it  is her and get b/c, would I presume that she is an Elgram? but because I know she couldnt read and write would not know that her name was spelt differently/wrongly?

[Biker]

Me again,

Just trying to rule in or rule out this family you spotted Carol.

This looks like the family in 1871:

2 Usher? Road, St Mary Stratford le Bow  London  

Elizabeth Elden 1864  Mile End, Middlesex, England Daughter
Emily Elden 1866  Mile End, Middlesex, England Daughter  
Marian A Elden 1835  Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Wife  
Marian E Elden 1861  Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Daughter  
Walter M H Elden 1868  Poplar, Middlesex, England Son  
William Elden 1839  Lambeth, Surrey, England Head
William G F Elden 1863  Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Son  

William is still a Bricklayer

RG10/578
Folio:    114  
Page:    32

Jonathan