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WINDER family - Victoria
« on: Friday 16 March 12 16:21 GMT (UK) »
OK I am back again.

I am now looking for my mothers adopted family - because she wants to know.

There are a pretty uncommunicative lot - they didnt talk much, and didnt keep a lot of records either.

So here is what I have got. Most of this information comes from the WINDER family Bible that my mother inherited.

 My ADOPTED grandfather was John Francis WINDER - born Footscray, (Melbourne) Victoria Australia, 28 May 1901. He was better known as Frank and that is what I will call him. He died in NZ in 1971.

His parents names were John James WINDER And Mary Jane DEE. I dont know when or where they were married but according to the family bible they had the following children - all born in Footscray, Victoria, Australia.

Mary Helen (1888)
Leslie James (1891)
Agnes Frances (1892)
David william Hendon (1898)
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John Francis (1901)

The family seems to have emigrated to New Zealand around 1908 - but so far I cant seem to find any record of that.

The 1908 comes from the death record of 2 of the children (died in NZ)  who both indicated how long they were in NZ and the years calculated go back to 1908.

But I have no idea what ship and what port.

They were living in Dunedin NZ, so it may have been Port Chalmers or Bluff.

Oh and the family bible also says that John James WINDER came from Kensington (Melbourne) Vic, and Mary Jane DEE was from Werrilee (Melbourne) Vic.


So if I could have some help finding the marriage record of John James WINDER to Mary Jane DEE sometime prior to 1888, and a passenger list to NZ around 1908, that would be great to start with. Thank you.

BD
BURROW, BICKHAM, EVANS, SULLEY, STONE - Devon
STEPHENS, MALLET, ADAMS - Cornwall
HANCOCK , BUSSON - Somerset
MCCALLUM, MCDIARMID, MCNEILL - Argyle, Scotland
WALLS, SUTHERLAND, SIMPSON - Orkney, Scotland
FAIRBAIRN - Fife, Scotland
THOMPSON - Aberdeen, Scotland

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Re: WINDER family - Victoria
« Reply #1 on: Friday 16 March 12 21:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Marriage 1888, reg no 1728, gives his place of birth as Kensington,could be Kensingotn Victoria. There is a birth of John James Winder 1861, in Flemington Vic reg no 581, parents Wiliam Hender Winder and Mary Jane Day.
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Re: WINDER family - Victoria
« Reply #2 on: Friday 16 March 12 21:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Marriage 1888, reg no 1728, gives his place of birth as Kensington,could be Kensingotn Victoria. There is a birth of John James Winder 1861, in Flemington Vic reg no 581, parents Wiliam Hender Winder and Mary Jane Day.
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Thank you - and that just raises more questions - The William Hendon Winder explains why David was given that Hendon name

Kensington and Flemington are pretty similar in spelling and someone could have transcribed them wrong.

But it is unlikely that John James would have had his mother as Mary Jane Day and his wife as Mary Jane Dee?

I think there has to be a transcription error in there somewhere.

Otherwise - Thank you.

Now there is also the possiblity that the family may have been in Western Australia before they came to NZ, so maybe I need to look for ships to and from Fremantle.

BURROW, BICKHAM, EVANS, SULLEY, STONE - Devon
STEPHENS, MALLET, ADAMS - Cornwall
HANCOCK , BUSSON - Somerset
MCCALLUM, MCDIARMID, MCNEILL - Argyle, Scotland
WALLS, SUTHERLAND, SIMPSON - Orkney, Scotland
FAIRBAIRN - Fife, Scotland
THOMPSON - Aberdeen, Scotland

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Re: WINDER family - Victoria
« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 March 12 22:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Melbourne (Sands) Directory 1865.
Winder William Hendon, brickmaker, Kensington.

Regards
Gerry


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Re: WINDER family - Victoria
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 March 12 23:06 GMT (UK) »
Some other VIC births which will be of interest.

WINDER Mary Helen
Father John James
Mother Mary Jane DEEN
Birth Place FSCRAY
Year 1888
Reg Number 29478



WINDER Alice Mary
Father William Henden
Mother Mary Jane DAY
Birth Place FLEM
Year 1871
Reg Number 16184


WINDER Elizabeth Mary
Father William Hender
Mother: Mary Jane DAY
Birth Place FLEM
Year 1863
Reg Number 14130


Sue

ADDING query Were WILLIAM HENDON and JOHN JAMES WINDER brothers?
Father and son?

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Re: WINDER family - Victoria
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 March 12 23:15 GMT (UK) »
Here is the birth and his marriage to MARY JANE DEE



WINDER John James
Father William Henden
Mother Mary Jane DAY
Birth Place FLEMINGTON
Year 1861
Reg Number 581



WINDER John James
To DEE Mary Jane
His Birth Place KENSINGTON
Year 1888
Reg Number 1728


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Re: WINDER family - Victoria
« Reply #6 on: Friday 16 March 12 23:20 GMT (UK) »
Kensington and Flemington are suburbs next to each other just west of Melbourne with Footscray very close.

Judith
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: WINDER family - Victoria
« Reply #7 on: Friday 16 March 12 23:25 GMT (UK) »
Some Births you have mentioned, BD, plus anotherEDIT here-- MINUS one other--- (being Leslie) Whoops, sorry!

WINDER Anges Frances Alice
Father Jno Jas
Mother Mary Jane DEE
Birth Place FOOTSCRAY
Yr 1892
Reg 32801



WINDER Wm David Hendon
Father Jno Jas
Mother Mary Jane DEE
Birth Place FOOTSCRAY
Year 1895
Reg. Number 3510


WINDER Jno Francis
Father Jno Jas
SMother Mary Jane DEAN
Birth Place FCRAY
Year 1901
Reg. Number 11270

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Re: WINDER family - Victoria
« Reply #8 on: Friday 16 March 12 23:29 GMT (UK) »
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