Mary Geraldine Douglass

[terianne]

Had a quick look at the 1861 census for Kelso

And it show a Mary G Douglas age 25 Shopworker at 14 Coalmarket with Robert adn Isabella Inglis and family.  and two of their child were born in New York, USA

Might be helpful

[Gadget]

Already noted, terriane. They seem to be from the Ormiston side. see:

1861 Robert Inglis and Isabella Inglis  -were they related to the John who Mary married?
1871 Elspeth Mills

Robert Inglis married Isabella Ormiston
Eslpeth Mills' maiden name was Ormiston

[Gadget]

PS - Mary Marshall Inglis, aged 8 on the 1861, was named for Isabella's (and Esther's)  mother  - Mary Marshall.

Esther died in Kelso in 1880. Parents were John Ormiston(shoemaker) and Mary Marshall so not that side.

gnu

[lois in Australia]

Thank you both very much. Yes I had read the various threads, but since it was an "active post" I thought it might be helpful to put all the info together - especially the aunts info - to hopefully help and maybe find a solution. Yes, I have the marriage extract for James/Jessie, thanks.
L

[Gadget]

A considerable number of baptisms in Scotland before 1855 (I've seen estimates of up to 70%) are not recorded for various reasons. This might well be the case with these particular Douglases.

Also, all we know is that Mary was recorded as niece. As I've said earlier, niece had a broader meaning then and included relatives of the next generation down, rather than just the child of a sibling. Further, Mary could have been related through James's mother's line or through Jessie. We don't know. That is why I went through the Inglis family. I think that these lines should be explored in more detail by Allan and other family members.

In addition, have you looked at the monumental inscriptions for Kelso. These can often be very rewarding. They are available through the Borders FHS http://www.bordersfhs.org.uk/  *  Wills on the Scotlands People site could also be consulted, in case. I've also had searches done on 19C local newspapers for my ancestors - has this been considered?


gnu

* http://www.bordersfhs.org.uk/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=398

and

http://www.bordersfhs.org.uk/BFHSGravestoneIndexSearch.asp

[Allan Robson]

Many Thanks for your input all avenues are being looked, if we find James i will let you know.

Regards
Allan

[Gadget]

How about getting his marriage cert:

looks as if James married an Alice Shipley in Sunderland Mar quarter 1852 vol 10a p 358. This should give his father's name.

I don't understand why this marriage certificate hasn't been obtained.

[lois in Australia]

The cert has been obtained. See para 1 of my earlier, long, post. As noted, his 2nd marriage (to Alice Shipley) shows father James, Baker, deceased.
His death cert has also been obtained, informant was the son.
L

[lois in Australia]

I can see where I've confused you in para 1 - should say 'James Douglass' second marriage' in 1852 - not James M.