Very many thanks for this information. You said I didn't say who I was, and at the risk of sounding over-the-top, I'm Tom Welsh, son of Tom Welsh, son of Tom Welsh, son of Tom Welsh, who was the brother of John Welsh (Cardenden Row and Summers Place in your information), both of whom were sons of Tom Welsh and Mary Summers in Old Row, Cardenden. I am in touch with John's descendants so can pass on. Of the other brothers there were Alexander (descendants still in area), James (no contact with descendants), Andrew (who built Summers Place, still descendants in area), George (still descendants in area) and David (died unmarried), and nearly as many daughters likewise. Tom Welsh, who married Mary Summers, was born in Cluny, son of Alexander there, apparently son of Thomas, last miller in Cluny (the IGI gives wrong ancestry for Thomas who married Mary). So although three generations removed from Cardenden I have roots there. But that string of information may be useful to some who have links with that line, and I'd be interested to hear from anyone connected. Many thanks again.