VENABLES/VENEBLES in Cheshire

[fenifur]

Hello, I have a Venables line in my family tree that originates in Cheshire. My boyfriend's family have always assumed they were part of the Gentry family of that name.
However I am back into the late 1700's and they are farmers who are not yet connected directly to the family. Is there a chance there were two strands of Venables originating here, or is it likely that if I manage to go further back (proving impossible with current Online records) I will eventually find the link?
If anyone knows of another Venables family line do let me know!
The furthest I have gotten back for sure is Thomas Venables b.1795 m. Harriet (Simpson) Parents Judith and possibly John Venables.
Jenny

[JDGen]

Hi Jenny,

John Venables married Judith Tipping by licence 21st October 1791 at Sandbach.

Jean

[gortonboy]

hi,,probably not related,,but my Venables line originated in Shropshire,before two brothers were sent to Quarry Bank mill in Cheshire in the early 1800s,,,there are many Venables families in Cheshire now descended from these brothers,

[JDGen]

Hi Jenny,

In answer to your question about the families - the only way to find out is to keep tracking back to see if there is a link.  I don't know if you have already seen them, but the pedigree should be available from the visitation of Cheshire

If you go to http://archive.org/index.php and put visitation cheshire into the search engine you will see the years that you can look through.  The visitations were carried out to validate the right to bear arms and contain pedigrees of the prominent families of each area.

The other source that might be useful are wills.  You can see an index of Cheshire wills online here:
http://archivedatabases.cheshire.gov.uk/RecordOfficeWillEPayments/search.aspx.  These can be an excellent source to establish relationships - there are alot of Venables wills shown starting from 1580.

And you might be able to establish a connection with gortonboy!

Jean

PS. I have yeoman farmers in Cheshire that I can trace back to minor gentry so it is quite possible that your boyfriend's family are correct but it will take further work to prove it.