Francis Kerr and Janet Gibson

[escapee3]

Sy... that looks like a wonderful website, thank you. I'll certainly spend some time studying it over the coming holiday weekend.

Jamjar... the other children were (all born Liverpool):

Sarah Jane
Elizabeth
Janet
George
Frank
Mary Ann
Elizabeth (again)
and the rather lengthy William Gibson Robertson (it seems a habit at times that the family throw in a previous surname as part of a christian name (which, of course, is an intrigue to an amateur genealogist!)).

Thanks also for the census information - more for me to study further...

If any of your Kerrs migrated to Liverpool (or if anyone else's reading did) let me know and I'll certainly work with you in return.

keith

[Jamjar]

This is my Kerr family.

I have a funny feeling that there is a connection with your's, but it's only a feeling.

Jamjar

Headstone inscription.

"To the memory of Thomas Kerr in Esbie who died January 26th, 1764 aged 75
years. Also Jannet Sandert his spouse who died May 4th 1767 aged 75 years.
Also Thomas, Robert and Elizabeth, Thomas and James all children to George
Kerr joiner in Rosebank. Also George son of the above who died 20th
December, 1808 aged 72 years. Also Christina Burgess his spouse who died at
Lochmaben 19th December, 1819 aged 77 years. Also William Kerr son of John
Kerr who died --- 1817 aged 12 years, and Jean Kerr his daughter who died
10th March 1833 aged 16 years. Also Helen Bell spouse to the said John Kerr
who died 13 January, 1833 aged 50 or 56 years. Also Jean and Christina their
daughters - Jean died at Lockerby March 1837 aged 14 years and Christina
died at Ohio, America August 1835 aged 21 years. George Bell their son also
died in America aged 31 years."

[Jamjar]

I also had this in my files. It is from the 1841 census for Dumfries.

I had wondered if it was a brother of my Janet Kerr. My Janet's father is the George mentioned on the headstone, husband of Christina Burgess.

Jamjar

[Jamjar]

Is this your Francis on the 1881 census?

Jamjar

Francis Kerr
Age: 68
Gender: Male
Birth Year:1813
Birthplace: Scotland
Relationship to Head of Household:Grand Father
Marital Condition:Married
Profession/Occupation:Cabinet Maker
Address:17 Wolfe St
Census Place:Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England

Christina Saunders 46
Frank K Strong 20
Christina Strong 17
Francis Kerr 68

[Jamjar]

From Family Search:

Name: Francis Kerr
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 06 Mar 1813
Baptism/Christening Place: DUMFRIES, DUMFRIES, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 03 Mar 1813
Father's Name: George Kerr

No mother listed

Jamjar

[escapee3]

Is this your Francis on the 1881 census?

Jamjar

Francis Kerr
Age: 68
Gender: Male
Birth Year:1813
Birthplace: Scotland
Relationship to Head of Household:Grand Father
Marital Condition:Married
Profession/Occupation:Cabinet Maker
Address:17 Wolfe St
Census Place:Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England

Christina Saunders 46
Frank K Strong 20
Christina Strong 17
Francis Kerr 68

That's the one... the Christina Saunders is the daughter born in Dumfries and now on her second marriage (the first marriage being Strong, the other folks at Wolfe Street).

[escapee3]

From Family Search:

Name: Francis Kerr
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 06 Mar 1813
Baptism/Christening Place: DUMFRIES, DUMFRIES, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 03 Mar 1813
Father's Name: George Kerr

No mother listed
Jamjar

Fantastic, Jamjar, thanks again. I couldn't find that on Scotland's People, but the George name runs all the way through (and was also mentioned by a cousin of mine also chasing the Kerrs, though I've not seen any of his sources yet).

I've that same feeling that we might be distantly connected. Where is the grave located?

keith


Jamjar

[Jamjar]

Keith, the headstone is in Lochmaben cemetery.

There were quite a few Kerr in the area and I think more than one George, but there is always the possibility that he is related.

Do you have their death certificates?

Janice

[escapee3]

Keith, the headstone is in Lochmaben cemetery.

There were quite a few Kerr in the area and I think more than one George, but there is always the possibility that he is related.

Do you have their death certificates?

Janice

No, but as Francis and Janet died in England the certificate doesn't list parents anyway.

I'm just trying to get my head around your headstone inscription in terms of dates. Are you suggesting George married to Christine Burgess had a daughter Janet who might be a sister of my Francis? Or is there another generation in there - ie George died in 1808 before my Francis was born (1813 or so)... so is it...

George/Christina Burgess---- who have George, their son (born about 1790), who then has Francis and janet...

or am I reading that wrong?

keith