No trace of my Crighton ancestors after 1865

[alcrighton]

HI Annie,

I traced Alexander as follows:

- I have his name on Matilda's birth certificate
- I found his marriage to Matilda Jackson (5th Dec 1860, Alexander was 36), first from the IGI and then verified through the Scottish BMD images at Scotlandspeople
- There is a submitted IGI record for Alexander Crichton (with a c instead of a g) born 1824 in Airlee, Angus Scotland with parents stated as John Crighton & Isabel Sinclair.  I think I also verified this through the pre-1854 Scottish parish registers at Scotlanspeople although I can't find the reference now 
- Alexander's elder daughter was named Isabella Sinclair Crighton - verified through the Scottish BMD images - supports the authenticty of the submitted IGI record.

Alexander had 3 sisters (Isabell, Margaret & Elizabeth) and two brothers, John (b.1821) and James (b. 1825) so it's possible that Christine was the widow of one of these.  I guess I'll have to reluctantly get out the plastic again if I want to follow this up.  Why do I always feel like I'm being ripped off at Scotlandspeople?  Everybody else who comments on it here has nothing but praise and seems to get a 100% hit rate on the information they're looking for.  I reckon mine is less than 10% so on a par with your 62 quid certificates in terms of value for money  

Cheers,

Al

[liverpool annie]

Hi Mr C!!

OK First of all - I didn't know that Paul had already given you this!
Second of all you had said this on the Armed Forces thread

The reference to the 1/10th & 1/11th Londons is interesting as John was married in London in 1923 and his (half?) brother William, later a professional soldier & musician, appears in the 1901 census (but without his mother).  Could John have joined the Territorials as a result of the influence of his older brother?

I'm going to ask my friend Trish on the Australia board to take a look at this - she's a whiz on the Scotland stuff!!
I have a few thoughts but I need to check further!
I was hoping maybe you knew his occupation etc and also if he had been married before -  they were both a little old to get married for those days  - I still think this is your family though !!
Plus with an Annie in the family -  how can you go wrong??
(I'm still waiting by the way!!)

 

[alcrighton]

Hey Annie,

One further bit of information.  Alexander was a "Power Loom Overseer" on his marriage certificate and Matilda Jackson was a "Power Loom Operator" so it looks like she married her boss.  Also, Alexander was a batchelor on the marriage certificate so it doesn't look as if he'd married before (I thought that was a possibility too at one point because of his age).  Matilda Jackson was 27 at the time of her marriage.

The other couple on the same page of the marriage register were 30 (him) and 26 (her) so maybe Alexander and Matilda weren't so old for the times?

Appreciate any thoughts on how we can connect these two lots of Crightons.

Cheers,

Al

[liverpool annie]

Just in case you need something to do while you're waiting!!

http://www.rampantscotland.com/genealogy.htm

wade through these!!

[liverpool annie]

Mr C! - stuff!!


http://www.monikie.org.uk/ah-saintpeter.htm

http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/photodb/wc0598.htm

http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/photodb/wc0690.htm

http://dundee-howff.info/logiestones/57.htm

http://www.scran.ac.uk/database/record.php?usi=000-000-006-273-C&PHPSESSID=76d1961dca355d9547c67bcb1676e0fa

http://www.mcgonagall-online.org.uk/life/briefbio.htm

http://www.fdca.org.uk/howff/Initial%20J_1.html

http://www.basedn.freeserve.co.uk/explosion.htm


Spinning  Mill Works: 19 dead 1859 April 15th Scouringburn,  Dundee  Scotland
Explosion Boiler  exploded


Dundee 1851 Census

 Z/51/109/
Mary Crighton Head Un 18 Factory Operative Ans Dundee
Jean Crighton Sister      10 Scholar                Ans Dundee

 Z/51/116/

Stewart Thompson Head Un 29 Ans Dundee
Agnes Farmer         Dau         9 Ans Dundee
Agnes Thomas      Lodger Un 27 Mill Worker Ans Dundee
Isabella Crighton     Dau          2 Ans Dundee
Jessie More           Lodger Un 30 Mln Edinburgh

 Z/11/142//NO 18/

 Mary Ann Crichton Head Un 27 Factory Worker Ans Panbridge

The British Almanac of the Society for the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge
For the year of our Lord
1860

CHRONICLE OF OCCURRENCES.

Pages 256 - 263

From November 1858 to November 1859.

A large boiler at the extensive spinning-works at Scouringburn, near Dundee, belonging to Messrs. Edward, exploded while the mill was full of people. Nineteen persons, mostly young women, were scalded to death or buried in the ruins, and fourteen persons were severely injured. A woman passing along the street at the time of the explosion was killed by a blow from a portion of the building

http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/towns/townhistory399.html


 

[alcrighton]

Thanks for the links Annie, I had some of them already and on the Dundee City page there's actually a photo of the street where my g Grandmother Matilda was born

http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/photodb/wc0549.htm

I'll have a trawl through the rest and see if I come up with any new leads.

Cheers,

Al

[liverpool annie]

Hi Mr C!!

I was trying to find out the Mills in the proximity of Dundee - that Scouringburn one looks like it's a good possibility - owned by Edwards !
That photo of Queen St is so cool! gives you chills doesn't it? thinking your Grandma walked there! - I love that stuff!!

Hope you're having a good day!

Annie

[liverpool annie]

By the way - what do you think of the Muster Roll? trying to find out about that regiment - might be interesting!!

Annie

[dkmcad]

Al, got some information for you on your Crichton and Jackson families - not sure if you already have this

Old Parochial Records - Airlie (Births) - 4th February 1823
CREIGHTON - John Creighton and Isabell Sinclair at Littleton had a son born this day - Alexander Nicoll

Dundee 1851 Census (282 - Bk.13, page 11 - 40)
110 Seagate, Dundee
John Crichton Head mar. 51 Porter At Tay Ferry Born Airlie
Isabella Sinclair Wife Mar. 54 Born Eassie
Alexander Crichton Son Un.27 Power Loom Tenter?
Born Airlie
John Crichton Son Un.age 11 Scholar at home Born Dundee
Martha Jack Mother-in-Law Wid. 77 No Occup. Born Kirriemuir

1851 Dundee Census (Book 47, page 26 - 111)
Hilltown, Dundee
James Jackson Head Mar. 45 Railway Guard Born Ireland
Hellen Jackson Wife Mar 50 Born Forfarshire, Murroes
James Jackson Son 20 Un. Brush Maker Appr. Born Dundee
Barbara Jackson dau. Un 19 Power Loom Weaver, Born Dundee
Matilda Jackson dau. Un. 17 Power Loom Weaver, Born Dundee
Janet Jackson dau. 14 Scholar Born Dundee
Janet Chalmers Lodger 20 Power Loom Weaver, Born Dundee

Had a quick look at 1861 Census for Queen Street, but the Crichtons don't appear to be there at that time.  Sorry, but couldn't go through the whole Dundee Census

Hope you have some luck in finding them soon.  They do not appear to be on the 1871 Scottish Census. 

Cheers,   Dorothy