Eliza Gill b. about 1840

[Matahui]

My great Grandmother, Eliza Gill was born in I.O.M. but married and spent the rest of her life on Merseyside. On her marriage certificate in 1873 her father is given as James Gill, a bootmaker.
All census records after her marriage just state "I.O.M" as place of birth, until 1911 when Ramsey is named.
Can anybody please help me to find her birth, as I've had no success on BMD sites? Many thanks.

[catnav]

Have you got a date of birth?  Gill is not an uncommon name!

Catnav

[catnav]

Sorry! Just spotted it!  Really should put my glasses on!

Catnav

[trish1120]

Hi,
The only James Gill, Shoemaker, I can find conclusively is on the 1871 Census.

1871 Census
Glebe Cottage,
Jurby, Isle of Man
James GILL, 67, Head, Mar, Shoemaker, born Jurby
Mary, 67, Wife, Mar, born Andreas
Thomas, 26, Son, Unm, Shoemaker, born Jurby
John E CLUCAS, 9, Grandson, Scholar, born Jurby

1861 they are under KILLEY

This is interesting;
Catherine Elizabeth Gill Garrett
Christened 27 February 1842, Jurby, Isle of Man
Parents;
James Killey Gill and Mary Garrett
(Familysearch.Org)

1851 Census
Jurby, Isle of Man
HO107/2524/33/9
James KILLEY, 46, Head, Mar, Shoemaker, born Jurby
Mary, 42, Wife, Mar, born Jurby
William, 17, Son, Apprentice, born Jurby
THOMAS, 6, Son, Scholar, born Jurby
Jane, 14, Daug, born Jurby
ELIZA, 12, Daug, born Jurby####
CATHERINE, 10, Daug, born Jurby

1841 Census
Jurby, Isle of Man
James Killey   35
Mary Killey    35
James Killey 10
William Killey 8
Mary Killey    6
Jane Killey    4
ELIZA Killey   2

Trish

[trish1120]

ELIZA Killey Garret Christened 20 May 1839, Jurby, Isle of Man
Parents Jas KILLEY and Mary GARRETT
WILLIAM, 16 Dec 1832
JANE, 20 Nov 1836
THOMAS, 29 Sept 1844
(Extracted Records Familysearch.Org)

IGI has a Submitted Record of James and Mary Marrying 01 January 1831, Jurby, Isle of Man

I forgot to welcome you to Rootschat Matahui

Look I will admit I am no IOM expert but have done a little research in the area.

I am sure someone else will be able to explain the way Chrsitenings are recorded in the IOM which is different to other Counties of England.

Looks to me that James 1805, may have a Mother with the maiden name Gill.

1841 Census near to James/Mary is a WILLIAM Kelley age 74 (1767), Farmer

[KGarrad]

I am sure someone else will be able to explain the way Chrsitenings are recorded in the IOM which is different to other Counties of England.

WOT!!??
I'll have you know that the Isle of Man is not a county, but an Independant Island, a Crown Dependency!
It hosts the world's oldest, continually running, Parliament, too!

[trish1120]

Sorry I didnt word that correctly and didnt mean to infer IOM was a County of England.

[KGarrad]

Just winding you up!

[trish1120]

I hang my head in shame