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Heyes - Winstanley Marriage - need help
« on: Thursday 17 May 12 01:07 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Just my luck!  :(

I get my Great-Grandmother's birth certifcate - ELIZABETH ANN HEYES, 1st Jan 1885 and what looks like 90 Grove Street, St Helens

I knew her father Thomas Heyes and have his family but I knew nothing of the mother apart from some snippets:

First there is a parish record online for a baptism - ELIZABETH ANN HEYES daughter of Thomas and Mary Heyes, 21st Jan 1885

Also Elizabeth was with her grandmother in 1891 and her father remarries, so I think her mother dies and sure enough there is a Mary Ellen Heyes aged 26 or 29 who is buried 1889 in St Helens Cemetery like the other Heyes.

So I was expecting a Mary and/or Ellen and I did some research before the certifcate came and found a few probable marriages but her maiden name as listed on the birth certifcate is WINSTANLEY

I can't find a decent match. There is a 1883 marriage in Prescot probable but the Winstanley is an Emma, while the other people are Mr Woods and MARY ELLEN RALPH. Is it likely the forenames are the wrong way round??? --- I've never seen that, so unlikely.

Again the only other outcome if there are no matches is that she was married before. Her age is against her there. The marriage I liked the look of best before I got the certifcate was Thomas Heyes and Mary Ellen Foy. A search of a WINSTANLEY - FOY marriage brings nothing up.

Certifcate's are suppose to help you not hinder  :D
LOUGHLIN - Galway, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
HOWARTH - Rochdale
IVES - Rochdale. Originally Thurlstone, WR Yorkshire
BRIDGENS - Rochdale via Stourbridge
JACKSON - Prescot
PENKETH - Prescot
CONNOLLY - Kilmain, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
WILD - Rochdale via Wolverhampton
SANDERSON - Rochdale
KNIGHT - Rochdale via Holme, Huntingdonshire
BARROW - Marton,Blackpool
DAGGER - Blackpool
BAILEY - Rochdale/Rushton, Staffordshire & Oldham
SERGINSON - London/Wolverhampton/Leeds/Manchester
BRIGGS - Doncaster

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Re: Heyes - Winstanley Marriage - need help
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 May 12 04:33 BST (UK) »
You dont quote Thomas father,

the marriage of Emma Winstanley gives her father as Henry
Thomas(blacksmith) father James Heyes a  Blacksmith
13th of October 1883
St David Haigh
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Heyes - Winstanley Marriage - need help
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 May 12 12:57 BST (UK) »
Certificates only help if you have the correct ones,


please give me further details,her fathers second marriage was it at St David Haigh,
any thing I have a few thoughts ,
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Heyes - Winstanley Marriage - need help
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 May 12 13:06 BST (UK) »
in your post you mention Mr Woods(Richard) he married St David Haigh Mary Ellen Ralph of Aspull,18th of October 1883
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Heyes - Winstanley Marriage - need help
« Reply #4 on: Friday 18 May 12 00:59 BST (UK) »
Thomas' father is unknown as he was born out of wedlock

What you say regarding Richard Woods and Mary Ellen Ralph rule out my highly unlikely shot that the who ladies forename's were mixed up.

Got to keep on digging

Thanks

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LOUGHLIN - Galway, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
HOWARTH - Rochdale
IVES - Rochdale. Originally Thurlstone, WR Yorkshire
BRIDGENS - Rochdale via Stourbridge
JACKSON - Prescot
PENKETH - Prescot
CONNOLLY - Kilmain, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
WILD - Rochdale via Wolverhampton
SANDERSON - Rochdale
KNIGHT - Rochdale via Holme, Huntingdonshire
BARROW - Marton,Blackpool
DAGGER - Blackpool
BAILEY - Rochdale/Rushton, Staffordshire & Oldham
SERGINSON - London/Wolverhampton/Leeds/Manchester
BRIGGS - Doncaster