1831 and 1861 CENSUS LOOK UP PLEASE

[Jillianstella]

Just found the death cert. of John Axton's eldest son John who was 14 in the 1841 census, he died at Woodspoint in Victoria Australia in 1895 (never married) on his death cert. it shows his mothers name as Anne Axton m.n. Cherry, don't know what's going on here - will have to order the death cert. of Elizabeth Axton I think - maybe her name was Elizabeth Harriet Cherry but went by Harriet/Anne??  On my g.g.grandfathers death cert. - Alfred Axton - who died at Jamieson Victoria Australia (near Woodspoint) in 1899 his mothers name is shown as Harriet Axton m.n. Cherry.

[shilo]

John Axton married Elizabeth Cherry
on the 23 Sep 1824 at St Andrew Holborn, City of London

did he marry 3 sisters 

[Jillianstella]

By the look of this family there could be kids and wives all over the place!!!!  Any information you can give me Jackie would be great.  I wouldn't be surprised if this old devil did marry two sisters - Jackie, was John Axton and Ann Cherry's marriage at St. Peter's St. Albans? will order their marriage cert.
David your note re John's parents - There's a marriage of John Axton and Sarah Medcraft at Clerkenwell on 31 Dec 1798 sounds right to me also, you said both were otp - could you please let me know what otp means?  will have to order their marriage cert. as well.

[Jillianstella]

John's last marriage was to a Harriet Bent - so looks like 2 sisters and one other at the moment.  Will know more when I get the certs.

[bedfordshire boy]

Good find shilo! Allen Marriage Index shows both otp.

Having had three wives and as the information on Alfred's death was supplied by someone who probably didn't know any of John's wives, I wouldn't place too much credence on the name Harriet. It's good though that her maiden name was given as Cherry, which seems to confirm the St Albans marriage.

But the problem comes with John who was 14 in 1841. His mother wasn't Ann, but Elizabeth.

I wouldn't get too hung up over names on Australian death certs. The paper trail looks pretty clear; his first wife was Elizabeth Cherry, his second Ann Cherry, his third Harriet Bent.

otp - of this parish

I've seen the 1798 marriage entry in the parish register. Marriage certs didn't start until 1837. There's no other useful information. Both were otp. Both signed with an x. The witnesses were John Garth and William Chaplen.

The St Albans marriage entry can be viewed via the microfilm at your nearest LDS Family History Centre. The only extra information is likely to be the names of the witnesses, and that he was a widower. They possibly married in St Albans as marriage to your dead wife's sister was forbidden at that time, so they didn't want to marry in Luton where they might have been known.

John's marriage cert to Harriet Bent will confirm his father's name, and confirm that he was a widower.

David

[shilo]

John Axton and Ann Cherry's marriage at St. Peter's ? Albans? 14 Feb 1832

it could be St. Albans?

very hard to read
just been looking to see if I can find another record of it somewhere else no luck yet

[bedfordshire boy]

John Axton and Ann Cherry's marriage at St. Peter's ? Albans?

it could be St. Albans?

just been looking to see if I can find another record of it somewhere else no luck yet

It's on the Allen Marriage Index at http://www.hertsdirect.org/services/leisculture/heritage1/hals/indexes/indexes/marriages/

St Albans St Peters

[shilo]

thank you bedfordshire boy

I wasn't completely sure 

[Jillianstella]

THANK YOU SO MUCH DAVID AND JACKIE FOR ALL THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE GIVEN ME - I NOW HAVE SOMEWHERE TO LOOK - YOU'VE BOTH BEEN GREAT.  IF I CAN HELP WITH ANY INFORMATION IN VICTORIA AUSTRALIA AT ANY TIME PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO ASK, I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HELP WHERE I CAN.