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Re: Elizabeth Jenkins & John Herbert marriage and death mystery
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 02 June 12 08:29 BST (UK) »
Thought this might be of interest / use ... lists names of villiages/towns in Pembrokeshire - might help with locating census places/parish records  for instance Trevane which was mentioned earlier is Trefin

http://www.visitpembrokeshire.com/content.asp?id=1971
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Re: Elizabeth Jenkins & John Herbert marriage and death mystery
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 02 June 12 09:38 BST (UK) »
Try the IGI on Family search.

https://familysearch.org/

This is good for Non Conformist .
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountryWales.htm

Choose County, you then get a list of Chapels. you can either search by name, or leave blank with just the Batch No. You then get all events at that Chapel.

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Re: Elizabeth Jenkins & John Herbert marriage and death mystery
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 02 June 12 10:33 BST (UK) »
There is a possible death for Martha senior 1860
Gronow    Martha        Haverfordwest    11a   464

and possible Joseph 1868
Gronow    Joseph    age 78    Haverfordwest    11a   444
(although he's aged a few years from the 41 census)

theres a widowed joseph in 61 census for Aberdare but can't find likely one for 51 although theres a Martha Gronow in Goat Street, Newport (which has come under cardiganshire) aged 59 from Dinas, Pembrokeshire with  son Joseph 24 (also Mariner)  born Newport, daughter Mary 16 born Newport and grandchild Margaret Rees 3 born Newport
saying shes wife of a mariner ?


Don't envy you on this one - apart from the amount of Jenkins (Gronow is a lot more prolific than I would have imaged too!) , confusions as to what their surnames were so which name did they marry/die under you also have very moving registration districts ..  arghhhhhh!
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Re: Elizabeth Jenkins & John Herbert marriage and death mystery
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 02 June 12 11:08 BST (UK) »
Hello

I found a marriage for  a Thomas Jenkins on my Fiche

Dinas,12 Nov 1824

Thomas Jenkins,Labourer
But Brides name is Mary Gronow  ???

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Pembrokeshire
James,Gibby,David/Davies,Evan/s,Edward,Thomas,Griffith,Brown,Richards,Phillipps
Carmarthenshire
Thomas,Wilkin,James
Glamorganshire
James
Husbands side
Sussex,Mitchell,White,Hew/Hugh,Peter/s,Lower,Goring,Skinner,Cavey,Padgham,Brann,Graves,Hards,Easton,Moon,Gibb/s,Shepherd
Kent,Curties,Harris/Cleverly
Buckinhamshire
Shephard,Tuck,Philips

Scotland,Riddle

Todd,could be Old Windsor or somewhere I Lincolnshire,John Todd didn't seem to know


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Re: Elizabeth Jenkins & John Herbert marriage and death mystery
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 02 June 12 12:39 BST (UK) »
Hello Baggygenes Wilcoxon & Omega

Many thanks for your suggestions . They're going to keep me out of mischief for a while.

As the song goes .... 'there are more questions than answers - the more I find out the less I know!'

Have a nice weekend

Regards
Diane
Bevan familyTalgarth Brecon
Bevan family  Porth Glamorgan
Williams family  Monmouth
Williams family  Brecon
Herbert & Jenkins family  Brecon and Glamorgan
Gronow St Davids Pembrokessire

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Re: Elizabeth Jenkins & John Herbert marriage and death mystery
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 02 June 12 13:18 BST (UK) »
Hello Diane

The surname Jenkins/Jinkins from Pembrokeshire has me tearing my hair out.Not a main line thankfully.2x Greatgrandfather`s sister`s lot.

Good Luck with your research.

You have a nice Weekend too.

Kind Regards

omega :)
Pembrokeshire
James,Gibby,David/Davies,Evan/s,Edward,Thomas,Griffith,Brown,Richards,Phillipps
Carmarthenshire
Thomas,Wilkin,James
Glamorganshire
James
Husbands side
Sussex,Mitchell,White,Hew/Hugh,Peter/s,Lower,Goring,Skinner,Cavey,Padgham,Brann,Graves,Hards,Easton,Moon,Gibb/s,Shepherd
Kent,Curties,Harris/Cleverly
Buckinhamshire
Shephard,Tuck,Philips

Scotland,Riddle

Todd,could be Old Windsor or somewhere I Lincolnshire,John Todd didn't seem to know

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Re: Elizabeth Jenkins & John Herbert marriage and death mystery
« Reply #33 on: Monday 11 June 12 20:48 BST (UK) »

I have today received a copy of the marriage cert for Martha Gronow to George Symonds  - 8/11/1854 at the Hermon Baptist Chapel Nantyglo Abergavenny. Grooms father is George Symonds - a carpenter

Matha's father is Joseph Gronow - a farmer. There I was hoping her father would be Thomas Jenkins!

Both Martha & George (the groom) give their address as Aberystruth

Perhaps Martha Gronow and Elizabeth Jenkins are half sisters same Mother - different Father. I guess we'll never know.

Would just like to thank everyone for all their help and suggestions.

Very much appreciated and encouraging

Regards

Diane
Bevan familyTalgarth Brecon
Bevan family  Porth Glamorgan
Williams family  Monmouth
Williams family  Brecon
Herbert & Jenkins family  Brecon and Glamorgan
Gronow St Davids Pembrokessire

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Re: Elizabeth Jenkins & John Herbert marriage and death mystery
« Reply #34 on: Monday 11 June 12 21:10 BST (UK) »
This looks good  ;)
1841 All born in county
Llangarren Herefordshire.
George Symonds 52 carpenter
Sarah Symonds 50
Edmund Symonds 25 carpenter
Charlotte Symonds 22
Catharine Symonds 17
George Symonds 12

1851 Llanellan, Monmouthshire
 Morgan Williams 56 carpenter
Ann Williams 56
Wm Wms 19 carpenter
Ann Wms 16
Geo Symonds 23 servant carpenter b Whitchurch Herefordshire
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Re: Elizabeth Jenkins & John Herbert marriage and death mystery
« Reply #35 on: Monday 11 June 12 21:26 BST (UK) »

Thanks Wilcoxon

 Will check these out - especially all the Symonds from the 1841 to see if their paths cross with John Herbert and or Elizabeth Jenkins


Regards

Diane
Bevan familyTalgarth Brecon
Bevan family  Porth Glamorgan
Williams family  Monmouth
Williams family  Brecon
Herbert & Jenkins family  Brecon and Glamorgan
Gronow St Davids Pembrokessire