Expertese sought -tracking Yorkshire ancestor born pre 1710

[dobfarm]

A lot of trees seem to dry up around 1700 on the web. Maybe Thomas was not baptised ? end of story!. Maybe his father left a Will or Probate Administration with Thomas named in it

[sallyyorks]

. . . just had a thought , have you tried the Recusant (Catholics)  lists ? They are quite long for this area
[thanks --where do I find it?]

There are a few different sources for Recusant lists . The  National Archives website will have some  .
I tend to google surnames , areas and dates for this kind of thing .
For example  you could try search/google  "recusant pocklington" , "or "recusancy list yorkshire" or "thomas hanley recusant"
It might be worth a try because it is quite a Catholic area , see wikipedia recusancy map (i know my ag labs are Catholic from here , as are a lot of others probably )


 
I have been trying to include some links/lists for you , but for some reason i am having trouble posting them,  so if a site moderator could help ? ? ? , it is saying error  "must be your own work ...copyright " ...but i have not had trouble posting links before on here so maybe its just a temporary glitch 

[sillgen]

Cut and paste is restricted on the boards for copyright reasons.  For short links you can use Control C to copy and Control V to paste.  Anything longer you must retype.
Andrea

[dobfarm]

I use Highlight & edit Copy-then edit Paste

[sallyyorks]

Thankyou for reply mods but i was not trying to copy and paste (i know we cannot do that and it woudnt have fitted anyway) . What i was trying to do was post some links

[dobfarm]

Sally use edit top menu on the Windows top menu between File and View above web pages

High light the address bar first on the web page you want to make a link, click edit, click copy, then  go back to rootchat reply web page box, then click edit again and click paste

[sallyyorks]

Thanks Dobby . Will do when i get back on a computer (on a phone at mo)

[dobfarm]

Thanks Dobby . Will do when i get back on a computer (on a phone at mo)

Sal ,

Have two webpages up at once - 1 for rootschat & 1 for the link page

Dob's

[hanleyp]

Hi there,

Its like being Sherlock Holmes doing this ancestry lark lol.
Did try and have a look for you but although I have found
Hanleys in Yorkshire I cannot find one born 1704/5//6 time
you are looking for.  There are Hanleys in Pocklington back
to 1500's and also some at Brodsworth.  Both a few miles
and walkable in those days to Sutton on Derwent. If you look
for the Derwent River it comes past and through alot of Yorkshire
villages which I looked on the IGI for and Hanleys everywhere.
I did notice that some one had put Barnby Dun on the Heath Tax.
A few weeks ago I did a look up for someone around Doncaster whose
ancestor a agricultural labourer ended up in Hull. They couldnt understand
how they got so far away.
I then did some research and the River Trent runs through Nottinghamshire
and then Yorkshire through Barnby Dun and goes to the North Sea when it meets the Humber
estuary.  So lots of Agricultural Labourers did use the rivers in those
days. 10 miles was not far for me to walk when I was younger, I have
never had a car and although I am now 65 and can do one mile in speed
walking in 12 minutes. So dont disregard the amount of walking people
did as I did that in the 50's and 60's.  No PC or I pod to keep you in
when I was a kid. laugh.  I have found that after years of research
you have to be flexible not only in the spelling of names but how our
ancestors got around.   They had to move around to get money to live.
No Government handouts in those days.
Hope you eventually find your Thomas but have a look up for the
Derwent River, Yorkshire and see the map of how it gets to Sutton

regards Sandymc
[Thanks sandy ---
The issue of distance travelled has opened up quite a bit of correspondence .

The fact -as I see it --is although long distance migratation did occur ---it was not the norm . The study on movements in ER in the early 18th century concludes 50% of movements wrere under 10Km and 85% were under 30Kms.

I think there is a tendency to overlook restrictions on movement in those days --people were not just free to up and go .
Welfare was carried out by the individual parish and they did not like people just coming in and adding to burden. That is why many people had to get a written pledge from the parish to say they would accept the individual back if they fell on hard times.

So -again -as my aim is to determine most probable parishes --my thinking is that he would be most loikely hired to come to Sutton upon Derwent --not that he arrived uninvited

The response to my remark that I would intially  restrict search to close/ max 30km --brought responses to say they had experiences which proved people travelled further . My remark however would not  obtain responses from those people who agreed i.e.  had experiences of very close/nearby relocations.
Many more people could advise that this was the case for them .

Incidentally I have found hanleys in Whiby --but the guy was listed as a seaman. Would  think it less probable that Thomas came from Whitby than WR or ER

Regards