Birmingham marriage 1848

[jim1]

I think I've found Thomas in 1851 if you don't have it.

jim

[shilo]

hello Jim

please tell
I have been looking in Oz for a death for him 

[Suemitch]

I think I've found Thomas in 1851 if you don't have it.

jim

Is this Thomas Whittingham? That would be great if you have found him.

[Suemitch]

Hi Sue

you have a tricky tree 

still haven't been able to find a marriage yet

do you no when they came to Oz and were

Jackie

Hi Jackie, All I know is that they were in England when Frederick was born 1850/51 and in Melbourne when William was born (1852) . Have not yet been able to find them arriving in Australia. Sue.

[shilo]

Hi sue

ok there is something odd going on here

I think I have this right but I could be wrong  
but it looks like Thomas Whittingham may have changed his name to John Craven
what can you tell me about theses children

it is just to much of a coincidence

birth no 1 ( entered twice )
Alice Sarah Craven
Registered 1863 Darley, Victoria
number 18415r
parents John Craven and Anne Elston


birth no 2 ( entered twice )
Alice Sarah Whittingham
parents Whittingham and Anne Elston
Registered 1863 Darley, Victoria
number 18415r


death
Alice Sarah Craven
died Berwick, Victoria
Age 70 born abt 1865
Parents Jno Craven and Ann Elston Whittingham
Registered 1935 Victoria
Reg no 13877


birth

John Whittingham Craven
Parents Craven and Ann Elston
Birth 1865 Victoria
Reg no 6237r


birth
Martha Craven
parents John Craven and Ann Whittingham Elston
Bacchus Marsh, Victoria
Registered 1866 Victoria
Reg no 12486

death
Martha Whittingham Craven
Age 75 born abt 1874
parents John Craven and Anne Elston
Registerd 1949 Victoria
Reg no 2893



do you know if they lived in Bacchus marsh for a while


Jackie

note modified post to add second birth for Alice Sarah

[shilo]

note modified above post to add second birth for Alice Sarah

are there more children

[shilo]

birth
Mary Ann Whittingham
parents Thomas Whittingham and Ann Elston
registered 1859 Clayton, Victoria
Reg no 10648

marriage

Mary Ann Whittingham Craven married Julius Jacobsohn
1883 Victoria
Reg no 1748

death

Mary Ann Jacobson
Age 71 born abt 1859
died Footscray, Victoria
Registered 1930 Victoria
Reg no 13634
Father Craven

[shilo]

possible death for

John Craven
Age 48 born abt 1819
parents John and Mary Swann
Registered 1867 Victoria
Reg no 4341

possible Aka Thomas Whittingham 

or other possibility Ann has remarried

[jim1]

I'll have to try & digest all of that.
Thomas Whittingham,1851:
HO107/2000/448/7
His age indicates a birth year of 1824.

jim