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Re: Michael Manning and Mary Barrett
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 22 August 23 15:56 BST (UK) »
The place name seems to be correct as the civil cert spelling on Patrick's death 1902 matches the birth certs
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1902/05676/4599232.pdf

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Re: Michael Manning and Mary Barrett
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 22 August 23 23:01 BST (UK) »
Thanks - what does it say under the date? Ballin...? And between "old age" and "no medical attendant"? Does it say "some years"?

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Re: Michael Manning and Mary Barrett
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 23 August 23 07:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks - what does it say under the date? Ballin...? And between "old age" and "no medical attendant"? Does it say "some years"?

Yes it does.

Old age
Some years
No medical
attendant

Ballinanoulta [sic]


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Re: Michael Manning and Mary Barrett
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 23 August 23 08:14 BST (UK) »
This looks like Mary’s death despite saying married rather than widow. Number 309
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1907/05519/4546927.pdf
Because Anne Keady is granted administration
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014919/005014919_00613.pdf


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Re: Michael Manning and Mary Barrett
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 23 August 23 15:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks. I didn't see that one but I found one for a Mary Mannion from 1902 at age 62; she was the widow of a farmer's wife, but died in Mount Bellow and Patt Mannion was the reporter - Patrick was a farmer and it's in the area, but I have no record of a son named Patt. Yours lists Lizzie as the reporter, the same as for Patrick a few years earlier, and they had a daughter Elizabeth, so that might be them (or at least that Mary and Patrick appear to be connected and the same from the 1901 census - it would be nice if she was reported to be a widow.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1902/05676/4599245.pdf

I think I also found daughter Lizzie's death in 1927; couldn't find anything for Anne (do you think she married to a Keady?). Her location wasn't close to the others, but this is also 20+ years after her parents died so she may have moved for work.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1927/04970/4353292.pdf

EDIT - wanted to add that if Ann Keady is presumed to be Ann Mannion's married name, I found something for an Ann Keady whose father was Patrick Mannion, but her mother was Mary O'Loughlin, not Harney, so I'm not sure that's the right line.

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Re: Michael Manning and Mary Barrett
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 23 August 23 16:42 BST (UK) »
I posted the marriage I believe is them earlier and they are living in 1911 the same place as Patrick and Mary in 1901 and Elizabeth is living with them.
and I believe these are there deaths despite Anne's age been out a bit but that not unusual on death certs.
Anne 1951
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1951/04509/4186012.pdf
John 1955
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1955/04421/4153547.pdf

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Re: Michael Manning and Mary Barrett
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 23 August 23 16:54 BST (UK) »
On second thoughts the girls ages don't work in the census with the birth certs, need to look at this again.

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Re: Michael Manning and Mary Barrett
« Reply #16 on: Friday 25 August 23 13:27 BST (UK) »
Finally got a chance to look at this again.
Anne birth 1868, 1901 birth 1876/77, 1911 birth 1882/83, marriage 1880/81, death 1869/1870
so her birth cert and death cert are close enough to be her but in between is a mess.
Elizabeth birth 1876, 1901 1880/81, 1911 1887/88
The two of them get younger with each Census.

Than you have the place name which on the certs appears to be Ballinanultha, Ballinanulta and on the 1901 Census Patrick is 80 and living in Ballinanulta and on his death cert in 1902 still 80 at Ballinanoulta

so despite the girls ages and the variations in spelling of the place name I think this the correct family.

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Re: Michael Manning and Mary Barrett
« Reply #17 on: Friday 25 August 23 14:32 BST (UK) »

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Anne's marriage 1903
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1903/10228/5722878.pdf

Births of the four sons and a daughter in December 1911 (in 1911 census - Ballynanulty -reply #8).

Thomas Patrick 1904, Martin 1907, John 1908, Michael 1910 and daughter Mary in December 1911.

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Martin 1907  MMN transcribed as Maunin.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1907/01705/1676093.pdf



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