Ricchard Baxter

[nanatrish]

Can anyone help me with information on my G.G. Uncle Richard Baxter?

A newspaper cutting sent to NZ  following his death  (unfortunately nothing to indicate the newspaper or the date, but somewhere between 1887 and possibly 1939) quotes "... the remains of Mr Richard Baxter, an ex-superintendent of the Liverpool Police, and licensee of the Falcon Cliff Hotel was interned at the Borough Cemetery Douglas....."

Living in New Zealand, I an not familiar with Liverpool etc, but research on the internet would suggest that the Falcon Cliff Hotel and the Borough Cemetery, Douglas, are in the Isle of Man.  If  this is so, is there a connection between the Isle of Man and Liverpool?  Most of the hotels mentioned as sending wreaths to the funeral seem to be in Liverpool/Lancashire area.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you



Nanatrish

[Frances_mnb]

bur 5 Sep 1909 age 68 match ?
was he the R Baxter who ran a boarding house at 4 Clarence Terrace around 1898? - possibly also at Compton house, Hutchinson square in 1894?

[Blue70]

There's always been close links between Liverpool and the Isle of Man. Lots of Isle of Man people went to Liverpool for work and people from Liverpool went to the Isle of Man. The Isle of Man is not in the UK but in some ways it's like a piece of England in the Irish Sea it shares our accent (a softer version), TV region, public services etc My Liverpool/Isle of Man family have been back and forth for hundreds of years.


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[Frances_mnb]

the Scouse connection was acquired due to the Stanley family becoming Lords of Man in 1407 - their power base was West Derby now part of Liverpool which really only grew on the back of the slave trade from 1700 onwards.

re the hotels sending wreaths - most of the boarding houses on Loch Prom and elsewhere in Douglas used geographic names eg Warrington House etc often these which reflected where their clietele or the landlord/lady  came from in the brief but hectic summer season.  Retirees from the Police often became pub landlords etc

[Blue70]

Liverpool would have had trade links with the Isle of Man before 1407 as the town's main trade was initially with Ireland and the Isle of Man. As Frances said the Stanleys were involved in both the Isle of Man and Liverpool. The Stanleys had a fortified house at Liverpool called the Tower of Liverpool. Liverpool did grow partly due to the slave trade but it also traded in other commodities which meant that when the slave trade was abolished Liverpool continued to grow and in fact prospered long after abolition.


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[Frances_mnb]

actually the main port pre c.1500 was Chester - eg the Elizabethan troops going to Ireland went from Chester and much Irish produce came into Chester - look at the early Lancashire maps - eg www.manxnotebook.com/people/lards/lancsmap.htm - Liverpool is quite small (eg same size as Ormskirk) - the slave trade was key to development as opened up the transatlantic trade rather than shipping agricultural produce from Ireland - the undocumented key to Liverpool's success (rather than say Glasgow which had extensive links with tobacco importation) was the Isle of Man which could supply trade goods via 'forbidden shipping' of the Dutch East Indies traders that were not allowed to be imported into England to protect the British East Indies company - many other ports entered the slave trade (eg Preston, Lancaster) but Liverpool had the entrepot of the Island at a convenient distance (many of the slavers carried Manx crew or Manx captains) whereby these trade goods could be easily obtained.

[Blue70]

Chester was more important but Liverpool had trade links with the Isle of Man before the Stanley's although it was on a small scale. Going further back the Vikings of Man must have dropped in now again to see their Merseyside mates LOL


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[Frances_mnb]

the Island has a special suite reserved at the Jurby Hilton for our Scouse guests - generally met at the boat and escorted there!

The Norse actually followed current retirees and settled on the Wirral and the Formby coast

[Blue70]

Wirral is Merseyside 


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