Lookup Request: Charles William Langton, Portsea, b. 1868

[snowathlete]

Hello,

I wonder if someone might be kind enough to help me?
I am looking for anything on an ancestor of mine, my G G Grandfather's brother.
His name was Charles Langton and he was born in Portsmouth, almost definately Portsea in 1868. This we know from my great aunts notes, but she is no longer with us.
I looked on FreeBMD and there is a Charles William Langton born 1868 in Portsea. So, It looks very likely that this was him. Having said that, it could perhaps be a different Charles from the same family, or from another (we know of at least one other Langton family in the Portsmouth area)

So, it would be good to confirm that this is him. His parents would have been Charles and Amelia, so if a birth certificate could be seen then we could confirm it.

Notes say that he appears in the 1871 census as the lodgers son, his mother being the lodger, her husband at sea, and also appears in the 1881 census. I havent got access to these tho so cant see if their is a middle name or anything like this.

Family lore is that between 81 and 91 he moved to South Africa, and then perhaps Australia/New Zealand.
Lost Contact with family.

Aparently there is a Charles William Langton who served in the forces, with a record in 1897. But i havent seen it.

Thats everything I know. Hope it is enough that someone could help me.

Many thanks
Joel

[[Ray]]

Hi Joel

Charles Langton / Amelia Carter
1867 Q2 Portsea 2b 688

Charles William Langton 1868 Q1 Portsea 2b 473

1871 RG10 1145 38 page 21
6 Smith's View, Portsea
Mary Ann Corddell, Head, 27, Wife of stoker RN, Gosport
Sarah F Corddell, Dau, 6, Portsea
Mary A L Corddell, Dau, 4, Portsea
John H Corddell, Son, 1, Portsea
Amelia Langton, Lodger, 31, Husband at sea, Winchester
Charles Langton, Lodgers Son,  3, Hampshire

1881 RG11 1145 24 page 42
36 Olinda Terrace, Portsea
Charles Langton 55 , Head Married, Servant Sailors Home (Dom), Newbury Berks
Amelia  42 Winchester
Charles 13 Portsmouth
Joseph   8 Portsmouth
Amelia   5 Portsmouth
Lavinia   3 Portsmouth

Death Reg?
Amelia Langton 1886 Q3 Portsea 2b 264 (46y)

1891 RG12 862 18 page 30
67 Unicorn Street, Portsea
Charles Langton 55 , Head Wid,  Attendant Sailors Home, Newbury Berks
Joseph   17
Amelia   15
Lavinia   13



Ray

[petercornish]

Hi Joel,

1871 Royal Navy Troopship CROCODILE at Sea on Indian Troop Service   -   
Charles LANGTON Hospital Nurse, married, age 46, born Westbury Berks.


Regards   ...   Peter

[snowathlete]

Thanks Ray. Its nice to have the details to see for myself. Seems that fits with what I was told.

Peter, thanks for the 1871 details on Charles Sr.
Charles Langton Sr was born in 1824/5 and we think in Newbury, because his family had been there since 1679. He left Newbury for Portsmouth to become a marine.
So, the dates seem to match, and him being at sea in 1871. But where is Westbury, Berkshire? Is that Westbury, Wiltshire? That doesnt match quite. Could it be a mistake for Newbury? Or maybe they were away in Westbury for some reason.

These are the notes I have on him:
mentioned in 1851 census as a private.
mentioned in 1861 census as a private R M.
mentioned in 1871 census as a hospital nurse.
mentioned in 1881 census, as a servant.
alive in 1891, mentioned in census. Widow.
doesn't appear in the 1901 census, his son is head of the family by then.

Would be interesting to know more about Charles Sr too, but the reason i am more interested in Charles Jr is because he may, perhaps, have had children and there may be descendants somewhere else in the world that I dont know about that I am related to.

[[Ray]]

Hi

Epiphany Quarter Sessions Southampton
8-9th Jan 1886

Charles Langton
Found Guily of "Larceny of Gelding and Petty Larceny"
Sentenced to 6 calendar months Hard Labour


Ray

[snowathlete]

that could well be him. My dad just looked on the net and found this:
http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/results?basicsearch=charles%20langton&frontpage=false&newspapertitle=portsmouth%20evening%20news&page=0

Which says he was 18, which makes him the right age. So, if that is him then he got 6 months hard labour. Wonder what happened next. He doesn't appear to be in the 1891 census, so this 1886 record is the last one we have of him so far.
Thanks for that.

[[Ray]]

Hi

 . . . . . Top of that page is the death of his mother


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[[Ray]]

Found this for the pile of possibles. . . . .

Trooper C Langton
Birth    abt 1866, Age:    30
Port of Departure:    Natal, Brazil
Arrival Date:    26 Feb 1896
Port of Arrival:    Plymouth, England
Ship Name:    Hurst Castle
Shipping Line:    Donald Currie & Co's Colonial Mail Line of Steamers
Official Number:    102867

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[snowathlete]

Your right Ray, thats his mother's death isnt it. Handy to know. Before all we knew was that is was before 1891.

Thanks for Trooper C Langton. Difficult to say if thats him or not. My guess is no, but its not really possible to rule him out entirely.