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ALLMAND buried in Brymbo
« on: Monday 16 July 12 09:28 BST (UK) »
John  Allmand 1862-1939  died Croesnewydd Hospital  . (No home address )
Frances Annie Allmand  1895-1938 died  4 Glan Garth  Maes-y-dre

Is there anyone out there who knows of these people, both buried in Brymbo.

I`m unsure if there is any relationship between them.
I`m trying to establish who John was, I have most census records for the one I am looking for but this is the only death date that seem to match but I can`t prove it was him.

Can anyone help  :)
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Re: ALLMAND buried in Brymbo
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 July 12 10:48 BST (UK) »
Have you found John after 1891?I can't using soundex as well!

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Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
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Re: ALLMAND buried in Brymbo
« Reply #2 on: Monday 16 July 12 10:57 BST (UK) »
As far as the Frances Annie is concerned she could well have been born Frances A Blizzard who married an Ernest W Allmand in 1915 at Wrexham.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: ALLMAND buried in Brymbo
« Reply #3 on: Monday 16 July 12 11:00 BST (UK) »
Just checking - is he the John Allmand son of Robert and Emma - 1871 on RG10/5657/119/31 ?

PS - who was the informant on John's death cert?
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Re: ALLMAND buried in Brymbo
« Reply #4 on: Monday 16 July 12 11:11 BST (UK) »
The trail seems to lead back to this "Allman" family of John and Susannah in Bangor Flintshire in 1851-HO107/2502/492/7.It appears that John was the son of Robert given as 17 in 1851,and the Ernest W who I mentioned was the son of Edward given as 11 months old.


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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: ALLMAND buried in Brymbo
« Reply #5 on: Monday 16 July 12 11:14 BST (UK) »
So Robert and Edward were brothers - thus Ernest and John were cousins and Frances Annie was married to Ernest - thus  cousins in law

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Re: ALLMAND buried in Brymbo
« Reply #6 on: Monday 16 July 12 11:25 BST (UK) »
I still can't find anything on the John(1862) after 1891?

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: ALLMAND buried in Brymbo
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 July 12 11:29 BST (UK) »
I've been looking too and zilch so far. There's nothing on the burial record apart from what's been said  :(
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Re: ALLMAND buried in Brymbo
« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 July 12 11:35 BST (UK) »
Just been looking through the deaths/burials - Frances Annie who died 1938 was only 43  (born circa 1895) so would she have been the wife of Ernest - maybe too young. He was born circa 1861  :-\
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