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Re: John Evans and Mary Jones_parents of Henry Robert Bennett Jones
« Reply #45 on: Thursday 19 July 12 14:30 BST (UK) »
Reading the will is tricky - but it is free  :)

I've now found mention of :

Late son Hugh and children John, Grace, Mary, Elizabeth, Owen, William and Edward

Also found mention to daughters Anne, Margaret and Emma

Anne got a shilling but may have had a dowry  :-\


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Re: John Evans and Mary Jones_parents of Henry Robert Bennett Jones
« Reply #46 on: Thursday 19 July 12 16:33 BST (UK) »
I've looked up my Griffiths Pedigrees book - had to get the magnifying glass out.

Why didn't I look there at the beginning (OK, it was on a high shelf)  ::)

Anyway~

The Eliases of Plas Y Glyn, etc.

William Elias of Creigau (will proved April 20, 1845) married Grace  (I got back to him )

Children:
Owen  of Liverpool m Jane Lewis
William o.c
Edward o.c
Hugh m Perry Edwards
Margaret ob
Ann ob March 23 1891 m. John Jones of Elm Bank
Emma m John Bulkeley Owen
Elizabeth m William Prytherch of Liverpool

Children of Ann Elias and John Jones

William o.s.p.
Anne m William Morgan - would this be the Ann Morgan in the probate record  :)
Richard o.s.p.
Edward m. Elizabeth Orrel
Hugh Owen m Hannah Hughes - I assume this was the Hugh Owen Jones,named as executor in John's probate record
Grace m. David Lewis
Robert Henry
Mary Elizabeth m John Bennet Evans


Children of Mary Elizabeth and John Bennet Evans
Helena
Robert Henry - your Robert
John Elias
Annie
Mary
Herbert William

The family appear to be descended from Richard of Derwyn Isa, Clynnog  - his son Elias ap Richard of Gefail Talhenbont, a smith b. 1674 m. Ann

All spellings as in Griffiths! I could scan the page for you, if you're interested.

Added - there were quite a few postings that you missed yesterday - suggest you review the thread from this link onwards:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,607126.msg4566579.html#msg4566579
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Re: John Evans and Mary Jones_parents of Henry Robert Bennett Jones
« Reply #47 on: Thursday 19 July 12 17:51 BST (UK) »
Thank you! I appreciate all of this, so much information. I missed some? Ok, I will go back and organize and re-look at it all. I started a timeline with info so I can see any holes, an outline. I think I am not as quick as you are. ;)

The original John Jones, a builder, mentioned a while back, with a wife, Elizabeth, must be another person, a red-herring in this. Well, with all the Jonses and Evanses, it is a tough one.

My family had thousands of Richards, Samuels, Edwards, and two female names, Elizabeth and Ann with the same last name (MILES). I nearly went cross-eyed.

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Re: John Evans and Mary Jones_parents of Henry Robert Bennett Jones
« Reply #48 on: Thursday 19 July 12 17:55 BST (UK) »
I've got 8 separate Jones lines  ;D ;D ;D

Suggest that you press the PRINT icon (top or bottom right) and save so that you can go through everything at your leisure  :)
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Re: John Evans and Mary Jones_parents of Henry Robert Bennett Jones
« Reply #49 on: Friday 20 July 12 21:56 BST (UK) »
thanks. think I am coming up on some leisure tonight.

a helpful dude suggested I post this link, it looks pretty fabulous..lots to check out:

http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I183997&tree=Welsh

and to look at the new, ongoing, beta, etc. Welsh project

https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Welsh_Families_Project

which I need to spend some time on (see link in first paragraph to start a search)
a quick search didn't land me any results so I will spend some more time with it. A lot of good resources are being added to this site, rather amazing.

Thanks everyone for help, it would have taken years to get this far on my own.

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Re: John Evans and Mary Jones_parents of Henry Robert Bennett Jones
« Reply #50 on: Friday 20 July 12 22:16 BST (UK) »
First links looks uncanily like the info from the Griffiths pedigrees  - just seen it sources it - see footnotes  - check it line by line to my posting  - 'dude' obviously hadn't read what I'd put up  ;D ;D ;D

Second link is also a similar source to Griffiths.

Not sure either will give you anything more than I gave yesterday from my copy  :-X :-X :-X

Will of William Elias (Reply #44) has him dying 23 April 1845 - short link isn't working at the moment but the NatLib sometimes has hiccups
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Re: John Evans and Mary Jones_parents of Henry Robert Bennett Jones
« Reply #51 on: Friday 20 July 12 23:03 BST (UK) »
OK going through this page.

Tried to get the Will of William Elias to open, but just getting the spinning disk.

May be my computer/internet connection

anyone else?

Will of William Elias, Llanbadrig, 1845 here:

http://hdl.handle.net/10107/799670

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Re: John Evans and Mary Jones_parents of Henry Robert Bennett Jones
« Reply #52 on: Friday 20 July 12 23:05 BST (UK) »
we are on real time I guess. youre posting as I am typing. Guess I should check those red flags.

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Re: John Evans and Mary Jones_parents of Henry Robert Bennett Jones
« Reply #53 on: Friday 20 July 12 23:09 BST (UK) »
Will link isn't working tonight, although the long way still gives that handle.

 Try tomorrow or go in the long way:

 http://www.rootschat.com/links/0owm/

*Put in 1845 1845 and press Save
Leave Diocese blank
Select Name in drop down 1 - put in Elias
Select Name in drop down 2 and put in William

then press Search
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