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Offline Dave Hall

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Stumped
« on: Wednesday 25 July 12 22:09 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I have not been on here for ages, but I thought that I would have another dig into the family tree.
I am trying to find the parents of my 4X Grandfather.
And am getting nowhere !!!
All I have is the following.
Alexander Ramsay  b1747ish Married Hannaha Hindson in Stokesley Yorkshire 25/6 /1769.
Now I know that Ramsay is a Scottish name, and I think it would be great to find some Scottish roots.
The question I am wondering is, could I get a copy of a cert of their wedding, and if I did would it have the name of their parents on it, therfore giving me something to go on.
I am not really sure when "Proper" wedding certs came into existance.
I am thinking that this date could be far too early.
Any advice would be greate.
Thanks,
Dave


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Re: Stumped
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 25 July 12 22:21 BST (UK) »
I think you are going to have to look into parish records. You may not find parents on the records back then. You may get a family member as a witness but may not even that as some old transcriptions just say the names of the couple and the date of marriage and not always whether widow etc.You could look for a baptism record in the parish records, you may get son of.Also if there are any gravestones/monumental inscriptions there may be info on if there are any. May be a will or some other source.

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Re: Stumped
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 25 July 12 22:27 BST (UK) »
The question I am wondering is, could I get a copy of a cert of their wedding, and if I did would it have the name of their parents on it, therfore giving me something to go on.
I am not really sure when "Proper" wedding certs came into existance.

Civil registration began in 1837. Marriage certificates unfortunately did not exist before then. A marriage in 1769 will include the parish of the bride and groom at the time of marriage (often "of this parish" even if they were not from there). It will also definitely include witness names. Any other information is a bonus.

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Re: Stumped
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 25 July 12 22:36 BST (UK) »
I agree with the last post that they should have witnesses on and parish. Some are n't always family members.


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Re: Stumped
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 26 July 12 09:10 BST (UK) »
Dave, please could you confirm the marriage details as I've looked at my fiches for Stokesley and can't find a marriage for Alexander & Hannah.

* just checked FamilySearch and it's Ormesby  :)
Watson, Snowball, Pyburn, Heppell, Ferry, Holmes, Clennett, Kidd, Pescod, Bage Co.Duham & Northumberland
Stockton, Watson, Bage, Nellist N. Yorks
Challnor/Challoner Cheshire/Shropshire. Moore, Mansell: Wellington, Shropshire
Davies/ David, Coity, Glamorgan
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Re: Stumped
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 26 July 12 12:23 BST (UK) »
5 Children Christened Stokesley I can find, Father ALEX/ALEXANDER;
MARTHA 28 April 1771
JOSEPH 27 July 1775 (may have died)
ALEX 27 July 1775
SARAH 05 March 1777
JOSEPH 12 February 1780
(Source Familysearch.Org)

Ramsey is also an old Yorkshire name.
Familysearch has the name back to the early 1700's.
No Alexander I can find though c 1740-1749

I did find this possible for Hannah though (sorry if you already have this);
Hannah HINDSON Baptised 28 May 1743,
Church of England, Kirkby in Cleveland, Nth Riding of Yorkshire
Father JOSEPH Hindson, abode Kirkby
Siblings;
SARAH 09 Dec 1744, Father JOSEPH
JANE 07 Feb 1746/7, Parents JOSEPH/MARTHA
MARY 08 Oct 1749, Parents JOSEPH/MARTHA, abode Kirby Underbrow
(Source FreeREG)

Trish :)
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Re: Stumped
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 26 July 12 13:03 BST (UK) »
According to the baptisms for Alexander's children he was a maltster, I noticed a George Ramsey having children baptised during the same time period as Alexander, a possible relative maybe?
Watson, Snowball, Pyburn, Heppell, Ferry, Holmes, Clennett, Kidd, Pescod, Bage Co.Duham & Northumberland
Stockton, Watson, Bage, Nellist N. Yorks
Challnor/Challoner Cheshire/Shropshire. Moore, Mansell: Wellington, Shropshire
Davies/ David, Coity, Glamorgan
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Re: Stumped
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 26 July 12 15:30 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your efforts guys.
It ia Ramsay not Ramsey.
I am away for a few days but will have a deeper look when I get back.
Cheers,
Dave
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Re: Stumped
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 26 July 12 21:27 BST (UK) »
12th April 1741 Alexander Ramsay, father William, place Tweedmouth Northumberland.
North Wales Denbighshire .Williams. Hopwood.
Flintshire. Williams. Griffiths. Clarke. Hopwood.
Cheshire. Darlington. Stubbs.
Staffordshire. Darlington. Stubbs. Fieldhouse. Biddulph.
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Lancashire. Johnson/Johnston. Bebbington. Harris. Pimlott.
Cumberland. Marriner. Tuddenham. Crozier, Bell. Johnson/Johnston. Norman.
Northumberland.  Marriner. Leathard. Common
Norfolk. Tuddenham. Rolfe. Rosier.

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