Cornwall: John TIPPETT, born c1842, Tywardreath

[BAC3]

Hello,

A week ago RootsChatters were excellent in helping with my research for Samuel BLIGHT.

Now a new challenge..........John TIPPETT, possibly John Best TIPPETT, christened at Tywardreath on 05/06/1842, the son of John and Ann TIPPETT.   He was a bit of a rogue as a child, being imprisoned twice for stealing candles at St. Blazey.   The first occasion in March 1856 and sentenced to 4 months with hard labour and the second in January 1857 receiving 5 years penal servitude (Parkhurst Prison) and being released on licence on 24/07/1861.   And that is all I know about him.

Any suggestions as to his biography after 1861, assuming, of course, that John (Best) TIPPETT and the candle thief are one and the same person, would be more than helpful.

For the moment,

Tony Cocks

[horse000]

Hi

There are a couple of possibilities in 1871, but this one is about the closest match.

1871 Census, RG10/2260/46/14, St Blazey:
John Tippett aged 33, b. Tywardreath, occ. lead smelter
Ann 35, b. Lanlivery
All offspring b. St Blazey.
John J 9
Mary E 8
Charles 6
Jearusha 6 mo.

There is a marriage on FreeBMD:
Q3 1861 John Trippett & Anna Melmow, Falmouth, mar. V 5c, P 300

Geoff

[BAC3]

Good Morning Geoff,

I agree very much a possibility.

Whether or not I considered the entry previously is hard to say, except the evidence that he was born in 1842 is quite substantial.
Probably I felt that by 1871 ages would have been more accurately recorded and dismissed an 1838 birth.  At least that is my excuse!!  However,  there was a more fundamental reason for dismissing the marriage detail, given that he was not released from prison until the 24/07/1861 and he married in July of the 3rd quarter according to the FreeBMD.

Thank you  for all your efforts.   I will certainly use the 1871 Census entry pro tem unless proved incorrect  Tracing TIPPETT in Cornwall is quite difficult as it appears to be such a popular name.

For the moment,

Tony

[horse000]

Hi Tony

Yeah, the marriage was always going to be a close one.

May be a case of step-by-step in this one. There is a birth reg. on FreeBMD:
Q2 1841 Tippett, John Best, St Austell. V 9, P 12.

Geoff

[horse000]

Hi Tony

This is an interesting find, though I haven't checked it out yet, unless John Jr is from a previous marriage of Ann, i.e. John and Ann parents of John Best. Of course it could be a very bad enumeration error/mix-up and possibly should be John Tippett!

1851 census, HO107/1906/89/16, Tywardreath, St Austell:
Joseph Wandon aged 36, b. St Eye, occ. tin miner
Ann, wife 38, b. St Twenna
John Tippet (one T) 9, b. Tywardreath, occ. mine lab.
Then there is a son and 3 daughters named Wandon, all b. Tywardreath.

Geoff

[BAC3]

Hello Geoff,

The christening detail is also available on IGI for John Best TIPPETT for 05/06/1842, so I assume he is the same as the FreeBMD.

The name "WANDON" rings a distant bell in my memory, but in what circumstances?   I think your premise that Joseph WANDON is the step-father commends itself, although needs research, but regrettably nothing so far this morning.   Will keep "googling"!!

Once again, thank you for all your efforts.

Tony

[horse000]

Hi Tony

There is a death on the OPC for John Tippett:
9 Dec 1841 John Tippett aged 37, Tywardreath, bur.
However, I can only find 2 death registrations for a John Tippett in 1841, both in Q1 (Truro & Bodmin).

Also, a marriage on the FreeBMD:
Q2 1843 Joseph Wendon (note diff' spelling) & Ann Tippet (one T), St Austell. V 9, P 27.

Getting back to John Jr., because there is so little known about him after his release in 1861, apart from conjecture, I'm wondering if he adopted his stepfathers' surname. There are marriage and death possibilities for John Tippett, but nothing leaping out.

Geoff

[BAC3]

Hello Geoff,

I think a very creditable genealogy has been (you have!!) created for John TIPPETT and for the moment I am more than happy to accept the findings.   A pity nothing concrete has emerged post-1861 that can complete the picture. 

I shall maintain a watching brief and hope people keep reading the posting!!

For the moment,

Tony

[Milliepede]

1861 there is a John Tippett 22 born Tywardreath farm labourer living St Blazey wife Ann 24 born Lanlivery.
Was he out of prison at census date?  No he wasn't but the rest seems to match the one found in 1871 doesn't it so maybe this wasn't him